[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [url=http://www.ouya.tv/]OUYA's website is up and the kickstarter closed at $8,596,475[/url] I'll keep you posted on any updates and news as and when I see it :)[/quote]Lol, what a fraud. Much like Anita's Kickstarter. The only good thing that came from Kickstarter is Wasteland 2.[/quote]Yeah, it's not a fraud.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [url=http://www.ouya.tv/]OUYA's website is up and the kickstarter closed at $8,596,475[/url] I'll keep you posted on any updates and news as and when I see it :)[/quote]Lol, what a fraud. Much like Anita's Kickstarter. The only good thing that came from Kickstarter is Wasteland 2.

[url=http://www.ouya.tv/]OUYA's website is up and the kickstarter closed at $8,596,475[/url] I'll keep you posted on any updates and news as and when I see it :)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chordata The ouya is retarded. The specs are horrid and there is only 8gb of memory. protip: all the ggames won't be Free to play. They have to have a free DEMO. Some games may have a subscription fee aswell. the only reason people are buying it is because its 100$ and they think there is going to be Battlfeild 4, CoD MW4, Halo 5 etc for free to play.[/quote]Lol, no The specs are quite good, especially consisting the price. We know. Also, lots of games have subscription fees. No-one's buying it for that.

The ouya is retarded. The specs are horrid and there is only 8gb of memory. protip: all the ggames won't be Free to play. They have to have a free DEMO. Some games may have a subscription fee aswell. the only reason people are buying it is because its 100$ and they think there is going to be Battlfeild 4, CoD MW4, Halo 5 etc for free to play. [Edited on 08.08.2012 3:59 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x Originality requirements of Xbox LIVE Arcade (indie devs)[/quote] lol

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 If you don't like a product, why are you taking so much of your precious time to attack it? No-one is making you buy it. And over 60k people obviously think it's a good product and that includes several large companies.[/quote]I just hate seeing hard-working, industrious folks like you waste their hard-earned money on a doomed venture. :-)[/quote]I like how you ignored the hardcore gamer bit of my last post, but if very large companies like UT are partnering up then it's obviously going to end up doing fairly well. If they shared the same doubts as you they wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. And unless you've got some fancy business degree lurking around, I'm more likely to go with them than you. :-)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Quite a few people find OnLive works fine, just sayin. And for the record, OnLive works fine for me. What makes you think OUYA will be generating profit out of the hardware alone? No game hardware company does that, with perhaps the exception of Nintendo. The revenue comes from software sales. You are taking hackable in the wrong sense of the word. Go look around the Arduino community then come back. What makes you think the OUYA is targeted at hardcore gamers? If you've looked at the sort of games they want on it anyway then you'd know that it's not aimed at the completely hardcore-60-fps-or-gtfo market.[/quote]OnLive -- the entire SERVICE -- sees less than 50k active users during most times. Nearly every article ever written about the service complains about the lag, and that was my experience as well. I think it's safe to say that, while it's a cute way to "rent" a title, it is no substitute for owning one. And nobody uses it for multiplayer. While a partnership with Ouya could result in a spike in OnLive users as well, don't expect Ouya to replace a next-gen console. Ever. I never said Ouya will only make it's money from hardware sales. But I did say that $99 is unsustainable, even with revenues from licenses and platform fees. And I stand by that, even though I know that only time will tell the truth. I understand "hackable" perfectly well. I think that you don't know what I'm talking about when I say "closed ecosystems" are what consumers prefer. A "hackable" open ecosystem is directly the opposite. Go look around any tech blog and then come back here. I'm talking about hardcore gamers here because that's what this forum is nearly entirely composed of and that's who I'm talking to. If you don't consider yourself a hardcore gamer, why are you here?[/quote]Fine~ Fine~ I know exactly what an open system opposed to a closed system is. After what happened to the PS3 and Sony, the difference isn't going to deter anyone. I'm here because A) I like Bungie B) I enjoy video games C) I enjoy the community and D) I develop video games. Would I consider myself a hardcore gamer? Probably not, because I don't own 3864 systems, 37432646 games, over $3000 in steam game value and nor do I play games 4-5 hours a day. If you don't like a product, why are you taking so much of your precious time to attack it? No-one is making you buy it. And over 60k people obviously think it's a good product and that includes several large companies. [Edited on 08.08.2012 3:35 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Do you know how OnLive works? It streams the game, so if you've got a decent internet connection and hardware that can do 1080p (the OUYA can) then you can play any AAA game.[/quote]I wonder if you have ever used OnLive. I was a beta tester for OnLive and briefly had a subscription that I got for cheap as a reward for beta testing. It is the worst video game experience I have ever had. It was awful for any kind of AAA-caliber single-player experience, and unplayable in multiplayer experiences. And as for the developers who have shown interest in the console: lol. As I said before, combining one pile of crap with another pile of crap doesn't make it a rose. It just makes it a bigger pile of crap. And the $99 price point is unsustainable, even in bulk. If you think otherwise you have no idea how the hardware business works. Ouya will either have to 1) raise the price; 2) go out of business; or 3) come up with some other way to make up the loss that will, obviously, come out of your pocket in some way or another (i.e., subscriptions). The developers who have shown interest are those who have had distinct problems finding popularity on major consoles, either because their biggest franchises are now flagging (Square Enix) or because they have been unable to meet the rigorous quality, technical, and originality requirements of Xbox LIVE Arcade (indie devs). There is no way that major devs/publishers are going to sign on to Ouya except, perhaps, to try to squeeze a bit more money out of their older, less advanced games that no longer hold the interest of hardcore gamers (again, e.g., Square Enix). Advertising the console as "hackable" is a move in the opposite direction from what consumers have CLEARLY shown they prefer, which is a closed ecosystem where everything works out of the box in a predictable, standardized manner (see Apple, Amazon, Google, and, starting in the fall, Microsoft). In short: Ouya is a terrible investment if you're an investor and a terrible purchase if you consider yourself a hardcore gamer. It might be useful as a set top box to stream Netflix or something, but if you can get a next-gen console that does that AND plays AAA titles AND isn't likely to go out of business in the next 5 years, you're probably going to go ahead and spend the extra cash up front.[/quote]Quite a few people find OnLive works fine, just sayin. And for the record, OnLive works fine for me. What makes you think OUYA will be generating profit out of the hardware alone? No game hardware company does that, with perhaps the exception of Nintendo. The revenue comes from software sales. You are taking hackable in the wrong sense of the word. Go look around the Arduino community then come back. What makes you think the OUYA is targeted at hardcore gamers? If you've looked at the sort of games they want on it anyway then you'd know that it's not aimed at the completely hardcore-60-fps-or-gtfo market.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Triple AAA games on a console that has the power of a phone? [/quote]Do you know how OnLive works? It streams the game, so if you've got a decent internet connection and hardware that can do 1080p (the OUYA can) then you can play any AAA game.[/quote] That's OK, so what about storage?[/quote]You don't download anything over OnLive. OUYA currently has 8gb internal storage minimum and you can plug an external HD into the USB socket.[/quote] I don't think this is going to last over a year. It has nice things but, I don't know...... [/quote]With all the media services and hardware hack potential, you might be surprised...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Triple AAA games on a console that has the power of a phone? [/quote]Do you know how OnLive works? It streams the game, so if you've got a decent internet connection and hardware that can do 1080p (the OUYA can) then you can play any AAA game.[/quote] That's OK, so what about storage?[/quote]You don't download anything over OnLive. OUYA currently has 8gb internal storage minimum and you can plug an external HD into the USB socket.[/quote] I don't think this is going to last over a year. It has nice things but, I don't know......

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Triple AAA games on a console that has the power of a phone? [/quote]Do you know how OnLive works? It streams the game, so if you've got a decent internet connection and hardware that can do 1080p (the OUYA can) then you can play any AAA game.[/quote] That's OK, so what about storage?[/quote]You don't download anything over OnLive. OUYA currently has 8gb internal storage minimum and you can plug an external HD into the USB socket.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 Triple AAA games on a console that has the power of a phone? [/quote]Do you know how OnLive works? It streams the game, so if you've got a decent internet connection and hardware that can do 1080p (the OUYA can) then you can play any AAA game.[/quote] That's OK, so what about storage?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [qote][b]Posted by:[/b] The U2 RoKKeR Absolutely pointless. I see no market for playing phone games on a TV. Ouya is a pipe dream at best, it will be dead in 6-12 months. It is a good idea in theory, but in reality and today's market, it simply will not succeed on the level many are predicting. Just my thoughts on it.[/quote] It's nice to see something different but it has less juice than a PS2. [/quote]I don't know the exact specs but with today's tech you can probably run PS2 games on the Tegra3 T33.[/quote] And how do you buy games for this, internet or will it have physical media? [/quote]Downloads, as there's no disk drive. OnLive is an option too for AAA games.[/quote] Triple AAA games on a console that has the power of a phone? [/quote]Do you know how OnLive works? It streams the game, so if you've got a decent internet connection and hardware that can do 1080p (the OUYA can) then you can play any AAA game.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The U2 RoKKeR Absolutely pointless. I see no market for playing phone games on a TV. Ouya is a pipe dream at best, it will be dead in 6-12 months. It is a good idea in theory, but in reality and today's market, it simply will not succeed on the level many are predicting. Just my thoughts on it.[/quote] It's nice to see something different but it has less juice than a PS2. [/quote]I don't know the exact specs but with today's tech you can probably run PS2 games on the Tegra3 T33.[/quote] And how do you buy games for this, internet or will it have physical media? [/quote]Downloads, as there's no disk drive. OnLive is an option too for AAA games.[/quote] Triple AAA games on a console that has the power of a phone?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The U2 RoKKeR Absolutely pointless. I see no market for playing phone games on a TV. Ouya is a pipe dream at best, it will be dead in 6-12 months. It is a good idea in theory, but in reality and today's market, it simply will not succeed on the level many are predicting. Just my thoughts on it.[/quote] It's nice to see something different but it has less juice than a PS2. [/quote]I don't know the exact specs but with today's tech you can probably run PS2 games on the Tegra3 T33.[/quote] And how do you buy games for this, internet or will it have physical media? [/quote]Downloads, as there's no disk drive. OnLive is an option too for AAA games.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The U2 RoKKeR Absolutely pointless. I see no market for playing phone games on a TV. Ouya is a pipe dream at best, it will be dead in 6-12 months. It is a good idea in theory, but in reality and today's market, it simply will not succeed on the level many are predicting. Just my thoughts on it.[/quote] It's nice to see something different but it has less juice than a PS2. [/quote]I don't know the exact specs but with today's tech you can probably run PS2 games on the Tegra3 T33.[/quote] And how do you buy games for this, internet or will it have physical media?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Onomatopoeia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The U2 RoKKeR Absolutely pointless. I see no market for playing phone games on a TV. Ouya is a pipe dream at best, it will be dead in 6-12 months. It is a good idea in theory, but in reality and today's market, it simply will not succeed on the level many are predicting. Just my thoughts on it.[/quote] It's nice to see something different but it has less juice than a PS2. [/quote]I don't know the exact specs but with today's tech you can probably run PS2 games on the Tegra3 T33.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The U2 RoKKeR Absolutely pointless. I see no market for playing phone games on a TV. Ouya is a pipe dream at best, it will be dead in 6-12 months. It is a good idea in theory, but in reality and today's market, it simply will not succeed on the level many are predicting. Just my thoughts on it.[/quote] It's nice to see something different but it has less juice than a PS2.

Seems interesting. Best of luck to them in making a new console. If it's successful I might even buy it. But I wouldn't risk money over it while it's at this stage. [Edited on 08.08.2012 2:38 PM PDT]

[url=http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i459/Darkben64/photo-6.png]OUYA just broke $8million.[/url]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Forgewolf [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 That isn't what hacking covers at all. Hacking can add extra ports to the OUYA, more RAM, a better CPU, or custom peripherals. [/quote] But really, just more hacking your account and stealing your credit card info and having complete access to everything. I don't know why people think this will work. You can do everything the console would do with an emulator/smartphone that you probably already have. But meh, I'm leaving. I'll let you guys create your "Ouya sucks" threads when it comes out.[/quote]Yes, because smartphone gaming is really good! The controls are amazing! Oh, wait, they aren't. OUYA is obviously going to have protection against malicious hacking. They aren't idiots. They're encouraging the hacking that is 'take the console apart and develop something new' or 'flash it and turn it into a linux machine'[/quote]OR hacking their system's operating system and improving it.. Why else do you think Facebook highers hackers who prove their worthy? I think people will be fine and as long as you attempt to avoid putting your credit card on your account too if someone does get a little overboard with the hacking.. which is a possibility.[/quote]That happened to Sony too, so the big consoles aren't exactly safe.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 That isn't what hacking covers at all. Hacking can add extra ports to the OUYA, more RAM, a better CPU, or custom peripherals. [/quote] But really, just more hacking your account and stealing your credit card info and having complete access to everything. I don't know why people think this will work. You can do everything the console would do with an emulator/smartphone that you probably already have. But meh, I'm leaving. I'll let you guys create your "Ouya sucks" threads when it comes out.[/quote]Yes, because smartphone gaming is really good! The controls are amazing! Oh, wait, they aren't. OUYA is obviously going to have protection against malicious hacking. They aren't idiots. They're encouraging the hacking that is 'take the console apart and develop something new' or 'flash it and turn it into a linux machine'[/quote]OR hacking their system's operating system and improving it.. Why else do you think Facebook highers hackers who prove their worthy? I think people will be fine and as long as you attempt to avoid putting your credit card on your account too if someone does get a little overboard with the hacking.. which is a possibility.