After some positive responses from my previous threads (as well as tons of Sagan love), I've decided to post yet another link to a famous someone-or-other.
This time it happens to be the late, great Carl Sagan, famous Cosmologist and science educator. (1934-1996)
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtDjZ5TRQWI&feature=g-all-f]God: A Reassuring Fable.[/url]
What do you think of this video, and more generally, Sagan [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan]himself[/url], Flood?
[Edited on 05.21.2012 10:57 PM PDT]
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Sagan was quite wise. He even supported marijuana.
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Hey, look, this thread doesn't have a disclaimer about "totally not being a religious discussion guys ok". Anyway, yeah, Sagan's a pretty cool guy. [Edited on 05.21.2012 10:59 PM PDT]
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Love the video, love Sagan. One of the most devout men of science, and he was able to communicate to the layman like few others can.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Seggi31 Hey, look, this thread doesn't have a disclaimer about "totally not being a religious discussion guys ok". Anyway, yeah, Sagan's a pretty cool guy.[/quote] As long as there isn't an flaming, the mods are usually okay with this kind of thread.
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"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson
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Sagan is my hero. I can listen to him talk for hours. [Edited on 05.21.2012 11:02 PM PDT]
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We are the custodians of life's meaning. That's pretty cool.
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All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rational Music After some positive responses from my previous threads (as well as tons of Sagan love), I've decided to post yet another link to a famous someone-or-other. This time it happens to be the late, great Carl Sagan, famous Cosmologist and science educator. (1934-1996) [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtDjZ5TRQWI&feature=g-all-f]God: A Reassuring Fable.[/url] What do you think of this video, and more generally, Sagan [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan]himself[/url], Flood? [/quote] Quoted for evidence.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] I don't give a -blam!- if you do or do not believe in a deity or deities. It bothers me when I get looked down on because my philosophy doesn't align with yours. Who gives a -blam!-? Not only that, but people let their personal beliefs influence public policy, and we all know that isn't right.
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Carls sagan = Allan holdsworth Neil DeGrasee Tyson = Tosin Abasi.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ric_Adbur Sagan is my hero. I can listen to him talk for hours.[/quote] Those consonants... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] badhitman008 We are the custodians of life's meaning. That's pretty cool.[/quote] I agree. It's quite inspiring to think of humanity in that way.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] How the hell could someone be offended? Why did you come to this thread if you don't like it? Why should the mods lock legitimate discussion? Ever heard of free speech, prick? [Edited on 05.21.2012 11:10 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] I don't give a -blam!- if you do or do not believe in a deity or deities. It bothers me when I get looked down on because my philosophy doesn't align with yours. Who gives a -blam!-? Not only that, but people let their personal beliefs influence public policy, and we all know that isn't right.[/quote] It's interesting that you're implying that I am some how limiting or belittling your beliefs, and yet, you make a thread about how God is a comforting lie. [i] Because I'm sure that wouldn't offend anybody [/i]. Don't act like a victim.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] I don't give a -blam!- if you do or do not believe in a deity or deities. It bothers me when I get looked down on because my philosophy doesn't align with yours. Who gives a -blam!-? Not only that, but people let their personal beliefs influence public policy, and we all know that isn't right.[/quote] It's interesting that you're implying that I am some how limiting or belittling your beliefs, and yet, you make a thread about how God is a comforting lie. [i] Because I'm sure that wouldn't offend anybody [/i]. Don't act like a victim.[/quote] ...I am not the OP. Atheists are one of the least trusted groups in America, close to rapists and murders. I am a victim.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] I don't give a -blam!- if you do or do not believe in a deity or deities. It bothers me when I get looked down on because my philosophy doesn't align with yours. Who gives a -blam!-? Not only that, but people let their personal beliefs influence public policy, and we all know that isn't right.[/quote] It's interesting that you're implying that I am some how limiting or belittling your beliefs, and yet, you make a thread about how God is a comforting lie. [i] Because I'm sure that wouldn't offend anybody [/i]. Don't act like a victim.[/quote] You let the beliefs of strangers offend you? That's kind of...pathetic. Anyway, it's just most likely to be the case. Religion is a great way to control simple-minded people. It's been used for a looooooong time in many different ways.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Are You For Real [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] How the hell could someone be offended? Why did you come to this thread if you don't like it? Why should the mods lock legitimate discussion? [/quote] Well.. BESIDES the entire thread being chocked full of anti-religious self -blam!-ory material, I guess there is something to be discussed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill.[/quote] How do you think i feel wheni see, priests, my mom rationalizing, ppl wearing crosses, "join my church" pamphlets, "in god we trust" being considered a political slogan on how to run our country, when ppl tell me to go to church, and the looks i get when i say i'm atheist... How do you think i feel?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer BESIDES the entire thread being chocked full of anti-religious[/quote] Why should I tip-toe around your [or someone else's] beliefs? Why can't I talk about what I believe in without you being upset?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] I don't give a -blam!- if you do or do not believe in a deity or deities. It bothers me when I get looked down on because my philosophy doesn't align with yours. Who gives a -blam!-? Not only that, but people let their personal beliefs influence public policy, and we all know that isn't right.[/quote] It's interesting that you're implying that I am some how limiting or belittling your beliefs, and yet, you make a thread about how God is a comforting lie. [i] Because I'm sure that wouldn't offend anybody [/i]. Don't act like a victim.[/quote] ...I am not the OP. Atheists are one of the least trusted groups in America, close to rapists and murders. I am a victim.[/quote] And that's a shame since atheists have lower prison rates, lower divorce rates, are generally more knowledgeable (Even about the bible) and are open-minded and rational. Not all atheists are that way, I hate a lot of atheists and a lot of religious people are very wise. I myself am not atheist personally but I also don't believe in any supreme beings without proof.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Are You For Real [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] I don't give a -blam!- if you do or do not believe in a deity or deities. It bothers me when I get looked down on because my philosophy doesn't align with yours. Who gives a -blam!-? Not only that, but people let their personal beliefs influence public policy, and we all know that isn't right.[/quote] It's interesting that you're implying that I am some how limiting or belittling your beliefs, and yet, you make a thread about how God is a comforting lie. [i] Because I'm sure that wouldn't offend anybody [/i]. Don't act like a victim.[/quote] You let the beliefs of strangers offend you? That's kind of...pathetic. Anyway, it's just most likely to be the case. Religion is a great way to control simple-minded people. It's been used for a looooooong time in many different ways.[/quote] >Says "Somebody might get offended" > Everybody assumes I am offended.
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Nice find OP. I always appreciate a little Sagan. Shame about the flamewar. It seems that some people have no problem talking about their faith, but get offended when we talk about our lack thereof.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Are You For Real [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill. We get it, you don't believe in a deity, do I have to read threads about it all the damn time? And where the hell are the mods? This -blam!- should be shut down. Somebody might get offended.[/quote] How the hell could someone be offended? Why did you come to this thread if you don't like it? Why should the mods lock legitimate discussion? [/quote] Well.. BESIDES the entire thread being chocked full of anti-religious self -blam!-ory material, I guess there is something to be discussed.[/quote] No one was at all disrespectful until you came in here spouting unnecessary hatred.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Tempun [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer All this atheism is making me ill.[/quote] How do you think i feel wheni see, priests, my mom rationalizing, ppl wearing crosses, "join my church" pamphlets, "in god we trust" being considered a political slogan on how to run our country, when ppl tell me to go to church, and the looks i get when i say i'm atheist... How do you think i feel?[/quote] It's right in the pledge and on our dang money when government shouldn't be involved with it at all.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer BESIDES the entire thread being chocked full of anti-religious[/quote] Why should I tip-toe around your [or someone else's] beliefs? Why can't I talk about what I believe in without you being upset?[/quote] Because when I say I believe in God, I don't go around telling everybody that doesn't believe that they are going to spend eternity in hell. A measure of respect goes a long way.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cortland_Brewer BESIDES the entire thread being chocked full of anti-religious[/quote] Why should I tip-toe around your [or someone else's] beliefs? Why can't I talk about what I believe in without you being upset?[/quote] Because when I say I believe in God, I don't go around telling everybody that doesn't believe that they are going to spend eternity in hell. A measure of respect goes a long way.[/quote] Nobody was being disrespectful until you came in here.