Reapers are still better though, and who knows wtf the Catalyst could come up with

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 If including forerunners and precursors, easily Halo.[/quote] What are precursors?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ParagonRenegade BTW guys, the Forunners gutted the Precursors, so the Reapers could probably kick their ass[/quote] That was probably due to the Precursors being naive thinking the Forerunners were weak, and also probably few in number. Not to mention those Forerunners were probably using Precursor tech, which still was beyond Forerunner tech by the time of the Forerunner-Flood war. Keep in mind both of these extremely intelligent and powerful forces would be working together. The Reapers would not have a chance.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambrosius Mass Effect. Think about all the destroyed races that would be coming back in their prime.[/quote] Then we can as well include the races that were erased by the Precursors. But we should stay with the known facts in any debate. One thing is probably sure, all your wiped out races were below Reaper level which also puts them below the level of Halo. They will be nothing more then food for the Flood.[/quote] The Flood get curbstomped by a few bullets any time they appear. But yeah, I can see now that Halo as a whole would win.[/quote] Infection forms yes. Other forms no. Flood spores enter atmosphere and turn the entire planet into a Flood hive in days to weeks. Soon the planet will be full of countless of Flood forms of all types including regenerative forms from Halo Wars or space ship sized ones from Halo legends.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ParagonRenegade BTW guys, the Forunners gutted the Precursors, so the Reapers could probably kick their ass[/quote] Reapers? Lol, a Mac cannon could take out a reaper. Reapers are so overrated that it's not even funny.

I'm calling Halo universe. They have THE FLOOD

BTW guys, the Forunners gutted the Precursors, so the Reapers could probably kick their ass

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambrosius Mass Effect. Think about all the destroyed races that would be coming back in their prime.[/quote] And then think about how they would be destroyed again by the Precursors.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambrosius Mass Effect. Think about all the destroyed races that would be coming back in their prime.[/quote] Then we can as well include the races that were erased by the Precursors. But we should stay with the known facts in any debate. One thing is probably sure, all your wiped out races were below Reaper level which also puts them below the level of Halo. They will be nothing more then food for the Flood.[/quote] The Flood get curbstomped by a few bullets any time they appear. But yeah, I can see now that Halo as a whole would win.

The catalyst can bull-blam!- everyone to death

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambrosius Mass Effect. Think about all the destroyed races that would be coming back in their prime.[/quote] Then we can as well include the races that were erased by the Precursors. But we should stay with the known facts in any debate. One thing is probably sure, all your wiped out races were below Reaper level which also puts them below the level of Halo. They will be nothing more then food for the Flood.

Halo Rings > All.

Precursors? LOL. They would just devolve every ME species. Even the ones from the previous cycles. Considering the only way for the Forerunners to defeat one single Precursor was to wait it out (And even that takes millions and millions of years without a perverse timelock), I'm pretty confident they'd win in a full out war too. [Edited on 05.08.2012 2:10 PM PDT]

Mass Effect. Think about all the destroyed races that would be coming back in their prime.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kitten2012 [quote] You know the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs? 100 teratons. Multiply that by two, put the asteroid in light beam form, and give countless numbers of them to the Forerunners, and wham: you have one single Forerunner Cruiser.[/quote] I think you missed what I stated at the beginning. I said the Forerunners, Precursors, Prothians, Ancient Reapers, Star children and the pre-Prothian civilisations should not be included in any comparison. Their powers are far too vague to look at and compare, not to metion the worlds they inhibit are already occupied by the Covenant, Humans, and council raising questions as to who would get what. From what we can guess, the Forerunners had extremely powerful ships designs, but using the same arguments they would be facing Trillions of Reapers, and Hundreds of trillions of pre-Prothian ships. Star Children who made the Reapers and hold the secrets of Space Magic at their fingertips would also become a factor, as well as the sheer weight of manpower which would likely be literally beyond counting. Anyway you slice it, our understanding of both Halo's "Super cards" and Mass Effect's "Super cards" are vague at best and why I think the time frame I gave would be a much better comparison. [quote] hope you also pointed out that he Allied ME universe's strongest weapon is half as powerful as UNSC weakest. The ME universe stands not a single chance against even the Covenant. Not even counting the ancient factions, any one ship of which would ROFLstomp there entire force.[/quote] This is just not true, The UNSC MAC gun placed into the Marathon Class could fire with 64.53 kilotons TNT-equivalent per round firepower. Pre-Thainx technology Mass Effect Dreadnaughts fired at 38 kilotons of TNT, a significant advantage in Alpha damage for the UNSC, but not in rate of fire. Dreadnaughts could fire one round every two seconds, while it takes a MAC gun upwards to a minuet to fire a 2nd round. In terms of project-able power in an hour long battle the Dreadnought could produce 68,400KT, whilst the Marathon Class with its two MAC guns could produce between 7,743.6 and 23,230.8KT (One round per 30 seconds, vs 6 rounds) Combined that UNSC ships have no shielding means they will suffer the full force of the weaker-yet faster firing guns of a ME dreadnought, and would likely be destroyed if that first round fails to hinder the Dreadnaughts main gun in anyway.[/quote] -Except that the Forerunner books revealed tons of Forerunner info. There is more then enough info. And the OP states all factions are allowed, if you want a current incarnation then mass effect still loses because how -blam!- up they were in mass effect 3. Precursors have indestructible material=confirmed in Cryptum To the point that they have bridges that span entire starsystems and were indestructible to anything known by Forerunner save for Halo. If Halo is the only thing that could do damage then it means Forerunner supernovas or slipspace ruptures had no effect at all on that material. It would take a single Precursor vessel to rap through entire ME defenses without a scratch. -You don't get it, we have demonstrated feats of Forerunner firepower. A single Forerunner ship destroyed a ring on it's own which requires teraton-low petaton firepower to do so. Onyx sentinels blew up the crust of Onyx which requires EXATONS to accomplish that. Forerunner use energy weapons and reapers have kinetic barriers which are useless against Forerunner weaponry. There are no trillions of Reapers, they only build a few new Reaper per cycle while Forerunners can construct massive shield worlds and rings within a short time frame. As revealed in the newest codex the Reapers weaponry dish out a mere hundreds of kilotons which is below firepower of nearly all Halo factions save for the weak outdated Frigate MAC(64 kiloton) A single Forerunner fortress ship could solo all of the Reapers. A fortress has hundreds of thousands warrior servants, each warrior could command a million weapon-ships. Do the math. Source is Cryptum, i can give the quote if you want. Or they can just send high charity with it's fleet and it's enough to destroy the ME universe. Imagine a salvo of energy weapons which bypassed kinetic barriers and vaporise any ship behind it. Meanwhile kinetic mass effect weapons barely do any damage to the Halo fleets. I know my post is a cluster--blam!- now as i just rushed through it, but i'll make a better one later.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrMassakka Alliance > UNSC Turian/Asari/Krogan... > Covenant Reaper+Protheans > Forerunners [/quote]Let's see, humans 100 in the future or humans 500 years in the future? Dumbass... Brutes and Elites could butt -blam!- Krogan. The Turian's ships would get banhammered by a single Covy Fleet. Asari... Well, come on do I really have to say this? If you have ever read Halo: Cryptum, you would know why the Forerunners could PWN the Mass Effect universerse alone.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrMassakka Alliance > UNSC Turian/Asari/Krogan... > Covenant Reaper+Protheans > Forerunners[/quote] It's already been proven that the UNSC could trash the Reapers and you think the Reapers and the Protheans actually have a chance of fighting the Forerunners? LOL

Halo. [i]OBVIOUSLY.[/i]

@Kitten2012 Didn't you read any of the new Halo books? That's gives up a quite a bit of knoledge on the Forerunners. Enough to know that they alone could defeat the ENTIRE ME universe.

the forerunners could beat all of ME by themselves. Not to mention the precursors.

[quote] You know the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs? 100 teratons. Multiply that by two, put the asteroid in light beam form, and give countless numbers of them to the Forerunners, and wham: you have one single Forerunner Cruiser.[/quote] I think you missed what I stated at the beginning. I said the Forerunners, Precursors, Prothians, Ancient Reapers, Star children and the pre-Prothian civilisations should not be included in any comparison. Their powers are far too vague to look at and compare, not to metion the worlds they inhibit are already occupied by the Covenant, Humans, and council raising questions as to who would get what. From what we can guess, the Forerunners had extremely powerful ships designs, but using the same arguments they would be facing Trillions of Reapers, and Hundreds of trillions of pre-Prothian ships. Star Children who made the Reapers and hold the secrets of Space Magic at their fingertips would also become a factor, as well as the sheer weight of manpower which would likely be literally beyond counting. Anyway you slice it, our understanding of both Halo's "Super cards" and Mass Effect's "Super cards" are vague at best and why I think the time frame I gave would be a much better comparison. [quote] hope you also pointed out that he Allied ME universe's strongest weapon is half as powerful as UNSC weakest. The ME universe stands not a single chance against even the Covenant. Not even counting the ancient factions, any one ship of which would ROFLstomp there entire force.[/quote] This is just not true, The UNSC MAC gun placed into the Marathon Class could fire with 64.53 kilotons TNT-equivalent per round firepower. Pre-Thainx technology Mass Effect Dreadnaughts fired at 38 kilotons of TNT, a significant advantage in Alpha damage for the UNSC, but not in rate of fire. Dreadnaughts could fire one round every two seconds, while it takes a MAC gun upwards to a minuet to fire a 2nd round. In terms of project-able power in an hour long battle the Dreadnought could produce 68,400KT, whilst the Marathon Class with its two MAC guns could produce between 7,743.6 and 23,230.8KT (One round per 30 seconds, vs 6 rounds) Combined that UNSC ships have no shielding means they will suffer the full force of the weaker-yet faster firing guns of a ME dreadnought, and would likely be destroyed if that first round fails to hinder the Dreadnaughts main gun in anyway. [Edited on 05.08.2012 1:48 PM PDT]

As much as I like ME, I'm going to have to go with Halo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] risay_117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dragondude8o Including Precursors? /thread[/quote] And Forerunners /thread[/quote]

Anyone who remembers the Star Wars vs Halo thread should know who wins.

Precursors.

watsa precursur?