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2/17/2012 1:57:35 AM
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Undercover Cops Flirted With Students to Trick Them Into Selling Pot
[url]http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/789519/sick%3A_young%2C_undercover_cops_flirted_with_students_to_trick_them_into_selling_pot/[/url]
[quote]Last year in three high schools in Florida, several undercover police officers posed as students. The undercover cops went to classes, became Facebook friends and flirted with the other students. One 18-year-old honor student named Justin fell in love with an attractive 25-year-old undercover cop after spending weeks sharing stories about their lives, texting and flirting with each other.
One day she asked Justin if he smoked pot. Even though he didn't smoke marijuana, the love-struck teen promised to help find some for her. Every couple of days she would text him asking if he had the marijuana. Finally, Justin was able to get it to her. She tried to give him $25 for the marijuana and he said he didn't want the money -- he got it for her as a present.
A short while later, the police did a big sweep and arrest 31 students -- including Justin. Almost all were charged with selling a small amount of marijuana to the undercover cops. Now Justin has a felony hanging over his head.[/quote]
Wow. First of all, I feel terrible for that Justin kid. And this is really stupid.
-blam!- tha police comin straight from the undergroud.
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Absolutely ridiculous that we are wasting time on this. If someone chooses to use the safer substance or ANY drug it's none of the government's business.
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She obviously coerced him into committing the crime. The fact is it shouldn't be a darn crime in the first place! Get off our backs, respect our freedoms and stop wasting time with this nonsense! You're hurting everyone with this BS! What two consenting adults decide to do with their own bodies is none of he government's business! [b]Period![/b] (Or perhaps I should have said exclamation mark) [Edited on 02.17.2012 2:53 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sammichez117 Well they have to be caught in the act in order to be arrested. If this is how they want to play the game, then that's how it's gonna be[/quote] Yes, but the kid would have never committed the crime if the undercover cop hadn't shown up and led him on. Three conditions for entrapment: 1) The idea for committing the crime came from the government agents and not from the person accused of the crime. 2) Government agents then persuaded or talked the person into committing the crime. Simply giving someone the opportunity to commit a crime is not the same as persuading them to commit that crime. 3) The person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before interaction with the government agents. Entrapment. The kid is not guilty. He shouldn't even need a lawyer to defend himself against this. Case closed. [Edited on 02.17.2012 3:03 AM PST]
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If he wasn't smoking it, and she asked him to get some for it, that seems to me that it's definitely entrapment. Sicko.
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I just had a moment of passion while creating a thread moments ago. I think it was the bong hits.
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I thought entrapment was illegal?
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UngeqVrMviE&feature=related]Relevent[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FloodPsychologis I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Baiting someone to commit a crime is illegal if I remember correctly. [/quote] Nope, they were trying to find pot dealers. Though, it would seem that the cops might be a little easy on the kid seeing that he is not a drug dealer.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FloodPsychologis I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Baiting someone to commit a crime is illegal if I remember correctly. [/quote] It's called solicitation. And here in England, you can be charged with soliciation and being an accessory to the crime for asking someone to commit a crime for you.
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NVM [Edited on 02.17.2012 1:05 AM PST]
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I was under the impression that the police were not allowed to incite crime.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CIint Beastwood That's not cool. Cops are pretty much -blam!-s. Someone I know was on an 18+ chatroom and even though age was never posted by either user he was arrested for making suggestive comments to an officer posing as a 16 year old. He is now a convicted sex offender even though he didn't do anything wrong. Also, WTF. I made a thread about the hilarity of an Above the Influence commercial and it was locked and I was warned for "posting about drugs" (even though I didn't), yet this thread is still open, BS.[/quote] The topic of this thread is not about drugs, it's about a news story involving drugs, the sole discussion here is not drugs so there's no reason that it should be locked. [i]On Topic[/i]; I see this as Entrapment personally, I don't feel sorry for the kid though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CIint Beastwood That's not cool. Cops are pretty much -blam!-s. Someone I know was on an 18+ chatroom and even though age was never posted by either user he was arrested for making suggestive comments to an officer posing as a 16 year old. He is now a convicted sex offender even though he didn't do anything wrong. Also, WTF. I made a thread about the hilarity of an Above the Influence commercial and it was locked and I was warned for "posting about drugs" (even though I didn't), yet this thread is still open, BS.[/quote] You need to understand that just like a lot of police, most of the moderators of this site are incompetent.
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-blam!- the police
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That's not cool. Cops are pretty much -blam!-s. Someone I know was on an 18+ chatroom and even though age was never posted by either user he was arrested for making suggestive comments to an officer posing as a 16 year old. He is now a convicted sex offender even though he didn't do anything wrong. Also, WTF. I made a thread about the hilarity of an Above the Influence commercial and it was locked and I was warned for "posting about drugs" (even though I didn't), yet this thread is still open, BS.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] john5550 Good job cops. You just got an innocent kid to do something stupid for someone he liked and trusted, and was then quickly betrayed.[/quote]
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And now I have to go exercise my freedom to take some hits out of the pipe this time. Having medical rules!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FloodPsychologis Baiting someone to commit a crime is illegal if I remember correctly. [/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I consented [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 That is stupid. The police tricked him into committing a crime. [/quote] Trick or no Trick, he was still very willing to commit the crime.[/quote] what? did you even read the story? a cop had a kid fall in love with her and the undercover female cop bugged him everyday for some weed. after he got it he wanted to give it to her as a gift but she wanted to give him money for it. After that he gets arrested thats justice? [/quote] Did I read the rather biased sounding article that spun the story in a particular way to demonize the cop? Yeah. Wasn't too impressed by it. Does it suck? Yeah, but that's what you get for not being above reproach. Little Justin knew what he was doing was illegal. Nobody forced him at gunpoint to aquire the pot. If all it took was a pretty girl to get him to break then law, then yeah, he sorta deserves it, and is definitely not as innocent as some of the people in this topic would make him out to be. Was it entrapment? That's for the courts to decide. Was the cop actually pressuring him to bring her the pot with the texts? Or was she merely checking up on a promise that he had independently made to her? This tale could be spun in a variety of ways, and I feel that this article doesn't do the story justice.[/quote] You make it sound like pot is bad because big government has told us it is. You make it sound like someone acquiring marijuana is awful. Do you honestly think anyone should go to jail just because they exercise some freedoms? If anything we should be applauding this kid for not messing with alcohol in this scenario. Also, demonize police? They do a good job doing that to themselves. [Edited on 02.17.2012 12:12 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPARTAAA 117 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Arbiduck Entrapment is illegal, isn't it? Florida is so weird.[/quote][/quote] Florida seems to have all the weird stories.
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Lol, America. If that isn't picked up in court I will lose all faith in America, with isn't much at all. Encouraging someone to buy drugs for them and then arresting them isn't fighting crime, its injustice. The undercover cops and police department should be trialed and sued. [Edited on 02.16.2012 11:50 PM PST]
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They will get trust issues later on.
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That's pretty retarded if the Justin kid didn't actually have anything to do with pot [i]until[/i] the police intervened. And they still punish him.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TaNk_DeMpSeY Overcrowding prisons with teens who sold marijuana, good idea![/quote] And county jail/prison only makes kids worse.. ALL the people i know who have been in county or the pen come out worse than they were when they went in. It is not a place of reform, but of recruitment for gangs and clubs. Especially when it comes to teenagers/young adults. [Edited on 02.16.2012 11:30 PM PST]
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That kind of makes me mad.
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Isn't this something called entrapment which we are suppose to be protected from? And shouldn't the female officer that Justin fell in love with be charged with a felony too? After all Justin didn't sell it too her, he gave it too her as a present. I am guessing they arrested him for possession and if the officer accepted...hell if any of the officers handed them money to buy it they are breaking the law too. Talk about a bunch of bull-blam!-. On a side note, 2 -blam!- years in prison is a load of -blam!- for selling a little bit of weed. Yet a mother who murders her daughter goes free. Hell even though weed is illegal it is far worse than alcohol. This just makes me furious. I'm moving to Canada! [Edited on 02.16.2012 10:52 PM PST]
