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4/28/2011 5:40:46 AM
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Detailed Forge 3.0 List [Subject to Change]

I'm skeptical of even posting this. Regardless, the WayPoint forge forums are dead, and feel that these ideas NEED to at least be available to the Halo community, even if most will say TLDR (Too long, didn't read). WARNING: HUGE wall of text ahead. The items listed below are in no particular order, and come from multiple avid Forgers who spend 90% of their Halo time in Forgeworld. NOTE: All these ideas are based on the assumption that the next Halo game comes on two disks. This would allow for exponentially greater space for Campaign and Forge and Multiplayer. [b][u]Disk One[/u][/b]: Campaign (Big, and I mean BIG. 18+ hours at least) campaign Matchmaking Firefight Firefight Matchmaking [b][u]Disk Two[/u][/b]: Multiplayer Multiplayer Matchmaking Forge Forgeworld (upgraded; see below) This setup would allow for a much better Forge, Campaign, and Multiplayer system. Also, it would be great if we could play both installed disks from just Disk One (and only Disk One). [b][u]The Next Forge should have[/u][/b]: - [b][u]Terrain Cubes[/u][/b] (That's 6 sides) (Small, Medium, Large, Extra Large (With different terrain geometry on each side (flat, wavy, hill, indented, etc.) There would be multiple cube textures (Grass, Sand, Mountain, etc))) - [b][u]Different Forge Object Textures[/u][/b] ((Each in its own category) Halo: CE, Halo 2 (ruins), Halo 2 (regular (forerunner)), Halo 3, Human, Covenant) - [b][u]Open-able Doors[/u][/b] using channels (alpha, bravo, Charlie, etc (this includes gates, such as on Zanzibar, Containment, Highground)Open-able doors which can either bet set to "normal" (which would make them automatically open for a player and close behind him/her), or set to a specific 'channel', like the teleporters (alpha, bravo, charlie, ..., x-ray, yankee, zulu, etc.). If the door was set to a channel, you would then place a 'panel' and set it to the same channel. During a game, a player would go up to the panel and it would say "Press X to use Panel". The door would then open. The beauty of this is that you could place the door at one spot, and the panel wherever you want. Since both are linked through the channel setting, it wouldn't matter where either was located. Also, by using the channel system, you can have multiple doors open with one switch, or multiple switches open one door. You could even have a setting for the switch which would allow it to be used to open AND close doors, such as an option like: [b]SWITCH PROPERTIES[/b]: "Open", "Close", "Both" You should be able to set it's reuse time, or the time between uses: [b]REACTIVATION TIME[/b]: "Instant", "Never", "5 seconds", "10 seconds", "1 minute", etc. Include multiple "door" sizes: "Small" (like a door in any hallway), "Medium" (such as those gates on Zanzibar/Last resort), "Large" (Like those big base gates on Containment), "Extra Large" (Use your imagination). Also, some sort of correlation between switches and teleporters would be cool, like on Relic: How you had to hit a switch to activate the teleporters. - [b][u]Automatic Doors[/u][/b] (Like in campaign; doors that open as you approach and close as you move away.) - [b][u]Different Sky-Box options[/u][/b] (Nighttime, Daytime, Sunset, Stormy, etc) This would replace lighting-effects.You could have multiple different Sky-box options: Regular Morning Night Evening Stormy et. You would just select one while Forging your map and it would switch to it. The beauty of having the sky-box swap is that it's just one less thing to constantly bog-down the server during gameplay. The lighting effects used currently are just filters, and can affect gameplay. We should at least have the option to Forge on different Forgeworlds with these different Sky-Boxes before we even start the game: Forgeworld Forgeworld (Night) Forgeworld (Stormy) Forgeworld (Sunset) etc. - [b][u]Forgeable Water[/u][/b] (Using 'Objective' area shape (cylinder, box) with water surface at top; anything inside the boundaries but below the surface will be 'underwater' (Option to have it 'flow' (fast for rapids (and waterfalls (when turned sideways)), slow for creeks and such, and an 'ocean' option; one default 'flow' direction only))) - [b][u]FIX THE "EDIT COORDINATES" and "ROTATION SNAP"[/u][/b]! (Sometimes objects don't align, especially when flipped upside down. Also, what the heck is up with rotation snap?) - [b][u]Mirrored Objects[/u][/b] (This is A MUST! Either an option to mirror a selected object, or pre-mirrored objects) - More [b][u]Window-like Objects[/u][/b] that are more versatile. (Perhaps just window pane objects with no frame (small, medium, large)) - At least [b][u]26 Different Teleporter Pairs[/u][/b], one pair for each channel (That's 52 total teleporter placements. A little extreme, but it is definitely needed. Also, this could possibly have a correlation between this and the open-able doors system (Key a switch to activate a teleporter).) - [b][u]Bigger Forge World with different biomes[/u][/b] (desert, Artic, mountain, Cave, etc.)They should take the existing Forgeworld and expand upon it. All those areas we can't currently get to should be altered so as to offer better playability (Flattening land and such). This would include the large out of bounds area above the Canyon and the Area with that large Forerunner Tower-Structure-Thing. Then, they should at least quadruple the size of Forgeworld, spanning it out in multiple directions. You should be able to fly to those distant shores you see in the distance and forge there (as viewed from the shores of the canyon, and island). Even further away should be a DESERT AREA. If you go to the CANYON's shore and look out in the distance to the right, you'll see what appears to be a desert. You should be able to fly over to it and forge there. From the ISLAND, you can look out across a big sea and see a distant shore that looks snowy. That should be a SNOW AREA. On the far side of the Snow area should be an Ice-Shelf Cliff that drops into another ocean-like area, only arctic themed (with ice floating in it, etc). There should also be a very, VERY LARGE CAVE (Bigger than Waterworks) inside a mountain which is accessible via a hole in the ceiling (like in Waterworks) and by a hole in one of the walls that is very easily concealed with a Forgeable rock. Likewise, the hole in the ceiling is concealable. From the PILLAR you can see a valley between that 'Skull Mountain' and the main area of Forgeworld. You should be able to fly through that valley and emerge into an area suited for Forging URBAN ENVIRONMENTS. Perhaps this would be an exposed part of the Halo superstructure (like an uncovered part, as seen in Halo 3), or something like a collection of Forerunner structures in an urban setup. This area should also contain an entrance to an even larger "inside" area (such as the COLISEUM). Each one of these 'biomes' should be at least the size of the current Forgeworld (hopefully bigger) and offer as much if not more terrain diversity suited for each area individually. Also, the areas in-between each biome should be populated by diverse and suitable terrain that illustrates the changing climate and ecosystem with transitional textures (i.e. the closer you get to the desert, the more dry the land becomes, the less green the grass is, more sandy patches appear, etc.. As you approach the SNOW area, snowy patches in the grass should become more and more common, etc.) I realize that this seems like a lot to fit on one disk that also has Campaign, Multiplayer, firefight, etc. This is why I've been pushing for a Two Disk game: - [b][u]Weather Control[/u][/b] (Possibly in conjunction with Sky-Box; rain, snow, etc.) - [b][u]Light Bridges[/u][/b] (like in Halo: CE (Not crucial, but very, very useful) Small (Like the ones on the flood level), and Large (Like the vehicle one on the Halo level). Length adjustment. The large one should have those moving beams underneath it. The Light bridges would be under the same area as open-able doors and use the same 'channel' system). - [b][u]Animated Objects[/u][/b] (Such as the big Fan on Zanzibar, The spinning array on Ascension, or the pile-driver thingy on Waterworks. They are decorative pieces). - [b][u]Civilian Vehicles[/u][/b]? (Maybe? Doesn't really matter, but it would be nice) - [b][u]Mega-Structures[/u][/b] (BIG, detailed objects such as large Forerunner Structures or human Buildings. These would be very, very large (such as the Spire, or that Forerunner structure on Forgeworld, or those weather-control things on Tempest)) - [b][u]More Rocks[/u][/b], bigger rocks (HUGE, to be used to wall-off areas; possible texture Cubes option) There should be a rock dedicated to walling-off areas, such as the CAVE Biome mentioned above. - [b][u]Forgeable Trees[/u][/b]? (Maybe? Not as big a deal, but still extremely useful and very wanted by the community.) - [b][u]Forgeable Invisible Walls[/u][/b] (With adjustable dimensions (This is needed. Kill-Boundaries aren't good. Especially Soft Kill-Boundaries; Regular 'death barrier' Kill-Boundaries are still needed).) - A [b][u]'Despawn Time'[/u][/b] option (The opposite of 'Spawn Time'. Similar to the 'Invasion Gate' option currently available while forging Invasion Maps in Halo Reach) - [b][u]More accurate time settings[/u][/b] for 'Spawn Time', 'Despawn Time', 'Respawn Time'. (Just add a 'minutes' option AND a 'seconds' option.) - [b][u]CRUCIAL: An Extreme Increase to 'Budget'[/u][/b] and the number of objects able to be placed at one time. An EXTREME INCREASE. MUCH, MUCH MORE (like, over 10x as much). [Edited on 04.28.2011 9:44 AM PDT]
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  • Maybe add Rust or Moss to building blocks, like colour is added. Ability to build a map (from scrape) on the computer (like Oblivions TES construction) and then upload it to B.net to then be downloaded onto your xbox. You could seriously make some awesome stuff. ----------------------- Or perhaps go in an entirely new direction with forge and add in a campaign. Forge objectives, film scenes (like age of mythology use to) and then even add in A.I.s and voices through Kinnect/ mics. If I could do that, I would make one hell of an amazing complex and twisting storyline, filled with amazing strange facts that relate to it, such as 5% of people shot in the head survive or that for each hemisphere of your brain is a consciousness, and if removed into two can cause limbs to literally have a mind of their own. My god it would be epic.

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