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"The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete."

Guess you were just talking shit back in Year One, huh? Why did I work my ass off for my Elder Ciphers again? Or for the Mythoclast I did the VoG every week for and never got until House of Wolves? Or even for the Necrochasm, you know, grinding the absolute hell out of the Husk of the Pit and the Eidolon Ally and then praying to RNGesus for the Crux of Crota. Hey, anyone remember how hard it was to get Pocket Infinity, and the grind you had to do for Nightfalls? All that work just to see those weapons collect dust in my vault? That brings up another point. Why were some weapons buffed and others nerfed... only for them NEVER to come to year two? What was the point of that? Examples: Thorn, and Gjallarhorn. Thorn was given a "net buff"... and there is no Year Two version. Gjallarhorn was nerfed... and there is no Year Two version. Why bother nerfing these weapons when there is no Year Two version? [b] [i]Edit: Some of you bring up points about nothing lasting forever. And while that may be true... why would Bungie lie to us? Why DID they lie to us? Edit 2: Darean028 found the exact quote. Bungie Weekly Update 12/04/2014: "In the months to come, your quest to become more powerful will have more avenues that lead to satisfaction. [u]The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete.[/u] Since the reveal, we’ve read a lot of ideas for how this could have been done better. [u]Your feedback is clear: The time you have invested in your stuff should be respected."[/u] Edit 3: For those saying I can use Year One gear in Crucible, have you seen my Crucible K/D? It's absolute shite. I'm a PvE kind of guy.[/i][/b] To quote cpt PRIKPANTS [quote]If Bungie was so worried about everyone using the same weapon load out then why didn't they simply make the new weapons stronger, nicer and more appealing? Also, where are the primaries with burns? They make one and it's by default! Then people wouldn't be hung up on the vision, the fang, the thorn, the ghally, the ice breaker and so on if they had better options!! Either way, the old weapons and gear should have stayed in the game as an option to use considering how much time was vested in getting them!![/quote]
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  • NECROOOOOO!!!! BAAAAAAMP!!!........

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  • That was the dumbest line Bungie ever dropped in this type of game. A sentence people like you will keep riding for the next 8 -blam!-ing years. But guess what. Gear WILL become obsolete again. And it should. That's how it works. New stuff comes out, old shit is irrelevant. Get that into your head. Exotics aside, all legendary gear needs to be obsolete as soon as new content drops. (Which should happen a lot faster as it does now.) [spoiler]q.q Bungo lied, my Fatebringer is shit now boohoo[/spoiler]

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    • I am really enjoying Metal Gear Solid V atm and am lookong forward to Dark Souls 3.

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      • And yet people will still defend Bungie after this...

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      • No because I deleted most year 1 stuff and I'd be pissed.

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        • So they lied to you because before some updates and dlc they told you you would be able to bring stuff forward. When those updates came guess what? You were able to bring those items forward. Then came Year Two where they told you things would be being left behind.

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        • At this point I don't even give a -blam!- anymore this game sucks -blam!-ing ass they don't care about us they don't give a -blam!- about us they could care less and less we give them silver on more money for whatever -blam!-ing cock blocking -blam!-ing -blam!- ass shit they want Activision and bungee can both lick my -blam!-ing ball sack if they really gave a fuk we would have more than one -blam!-ing raid 2 do per week

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        • This is what the memory that bungie will always have, full of lies and incompetent devs. Every thing they said in every single lead up was complete and utter bull. They clearly have no respect for even the left over fanboys, who shell out money to buy stupid emotes that they probably do in their lunch hour, which bungie then gives out in game a month later

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        • Two middle... Up to us that's what. Now pay me! You don't like what we do? Pay me! Buy our ssshhhhh! Pay me! We're giving you "free" dlc! Pay me! Rebuy Destiny to play TTK. Pay me! You want to play nf and weekly again after new dlc? Pay me! I think that's how Destiny is going so far...

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        • [quote][quote]Some of you veterans out there (the few that are left) may remember this post. I've put it in spoilers for those who don't know it/remember it. Destiny has made a couple great steps forward with the TTK release, but at the same time they took 6 steps back. As a beta player, and an avid follower of this game pre-release (They really know how to hype up a game, especially with footage from the actual scrapped Destiny game from a year before release), I've watched since the beginning the BS, lies, half-truths, empty promises, deceit, and terrible decision making that has plagued this game. Let's take a little look at some issues, feel free to add your own, and if I'm not lazy I'll add them in as edits. [b]edit[/b] by now most people have left Destiny, leaving just the desticles and sweaty pvp players, and most complaints fall on deaf ears. But there is always hope. Especially with a new ceo. - nightfall is dead. They killed it with the TTK. Bring back the blue flame and XP boost (they said they'd increase XP everywhere else to balance it, but never did), remove stuff like emotes, sparrows, limited time event "rewards", 3 of coin as rewards, decrease the ghost shells. Bump up the light level, bump up reward light level, you die you go back to orbit. - bring back year one content. Seriously. No reason why year one, everything we paid for, was left behind. Luke smith said that he didn't want to bring year one forward because he didn't want players to have too much to do, too much to grind. And yet, the game is even more of a grind now, with less to do. Since day one the game suffered from lack of content, what's their solution to that? They cut out more content. - raid weapon rewards. They're disappointing. Majority of the players loved getting a primary with an elemental burn, it was awesome, a truly powerful weapon to commemorate your hard work. Luke smith did not like this. He chose to get rid of this during KF. He felt (and in a way he was right, but there are other ways to deal with it) that it limited weapons used, and that's not fair to other weapons. And he doesn't care if you don't like the decision, it's happening so stop complaining. Compromise. You know your players like it, but it does limit weapon use. So add drops to the raid that are elemental spheres. Infuse it to a weapon to give it a burn. Everybody wins. - [u]An in-game, looking for group board[/u]. Really guys, get on that. You're a game that dictates all endgame needs teams, but you don't give the players the ability to do that in game. Have a board, or a tab in the menu. Click different activities, add requirements if needed. Players join up. There's no reason people should leave the game to go look for groups. - weekly strike playlist is atrocious. A playlist was a good idea, executed poorly. No reason to have removed strikes from this. Again, community complains about lack of content, [b]you do not remove content. Add to the list.[/b] include all the strikes, make the first strike completed grant you the 9-12 strange coins and 400 rep it did in Y1. There's a huge problem of people not playing this. You join a game, either you start it with 2 people, it even by yourself (maybe they left during loading), or the other guys leave at start/part way through because they just played it 3 times in a row. Bungie [b]did not[/b] implement smart match making like they said they did. - a huge problem now, that sadly a lot of desticles don't see, are the microtransactions and the microtransaction events. They came out, deej himself, when microtransactions were first announced and people data mined out a bunch of stuff that was not just cosmetic (spark of lights), and told the community (who were in an uproar), to not worry, that was stuff left over from pre-release, won't be in the game. And then literally 2 weeks after the Sparks of light were released and bungie didn't even acknowledge it. They also came out (very late) and told the community no more DLC until Destiny 2, instead they'll be having a bunch of "free events". All these microtransaction events do is fuel microtransaction sales. They are not here to do anything other than that. These are not microtransaction events you get in other games where yes, you can spend money if you want, but don't have to, you can still play, have fun, win stuff, get ahead. These are just here to make more money, and do not benefit the player at all. - balancing is just the worst I've ever seen in a game. They have no clue what they're doing. All they keep doing is shifting around which weapon is on top. First it was auto rifles. Then those were nerfed to the ground and hand cannons ruled. Then they were nerfed and pulse rifles reigned. Then auto rifles were back on top. See the pattern? They aren't balancing. "If it's not broken, we'll break it" is a quote many people use to describe bungie and Destiny. When you notice a lot of your players are using one type of weapon and not another, you do not nerf the popular one to the ground and buff the crappy one to OP levels. It's not rocket science. And on the subject of balancing: [b]STOP "BALANCING WEAPONS FOR PVP AND MAKING IT AFFECT PVE.[/b] To free have they nerfed weapons to the ground because they're used too much in pvp, and they become unusable in pve. Example? Vex mythoclass. The end game reward for vanilla, the end all be all. It was powerful, and should've been. But it was wrecking in pvp so they killed in both pvp and pve. There goes the best pve reward. Awful decision making. "Balancing" also takes them [u]months[/u] to do. Literally months. Like every 6 they get around it. [spoiler]This is a quote from "The Ben obiwan", who posted this on a Bungie update 2015/01/22. So far it has 3500+ comments and bumps. At 2500 Bungie hid the post. To show support, and to show that we do want change, I move that everyone starts posting this to the forums, for as long as it takes them to listen. Fill the forums with nothing but these posts!! Force them to hear our voices, and to listen! Change starts with us! Keep this trending people! And make replicated posts! Spread the word of "The Ben obiwan!" [b]Edit1[/b]: the original post is no longer hidden on the update page “The update we'll never get- "We listened to the masses, and are making some changes to the game. 5 million people bought the dlc, so we have plenty of funds to make this game fun again! We are doubling vault space, hell, lets triple it, what do we care? You can now trade your useless ascendant mats for other things, 10 to 1 for radiant mats, 1 to 1 for marks. Survival mode added. Its really fun, and you get more loot the longer you stay alive. Grimoire is accessible in game, so people actually read it. As you complete sections of the grimoire, cut scenes are unlocked, revealing story points, it was always there, we just forgot to put it in. You can now change your characters appearance once a week for 10,000 glimmer. We made some really fun bounties for you to try, because we are sick of the same crap since launch as well. You can now add modifiers to any mission, and complete it for rewards suitable to difficulty. Of course we don't want every single core player looking identical, the outfitter can help. You just need the armor that has the appearance you want and the armor that has the stats you want. Take it to the outfitter with a chunk of some materials or something and BLAM you have sweet, unique armor, it's so -blam!-ing simple, I can't believe we didn't have this in since release. Crota's End sparrow can do tricks. We agree, all those low impact auto rifles and pulse rifles are like shit on a dick. Nobody wants it, so we added some decent/balanced ones. We fixed all them annoying bugs, like the sword disappearing, heavy ammo synth not working, and the Templar random containment fields. Queens Wrath is coming this week. Turns out there is [i]not[/i] a problem with YOUR network, it was OUR problem [i]all along.[/i] lol. Oh, and 5 more strikes are available, just because we are rolling in cash, and we want to thank you, the customer, for being such a sport, and believing in us." But instead Bungie just carry on, completely oblivious to core problems in the game. Why do I look forward to reading this every week? This could get 1000 bumps, it won't make any difference. I don't think they even read the comments. Edit: Lol, ignore it until it goes away. Perfect PR. Oops, should I of pulled that punch? Edit 2: Thanks guys. Obligatory new bump goal: The moon This post is unrealistic, that's the point, but what is unrealistic is not these ideas being implemented, but Bungie actually addressing issues the community reiterates week after week. Some acknowledgement is all we want, but instead we get ignorance. I love Destiny, but I've done everything, I just want to continue enjoying the game.” -the Ben obiwan [b]edit 2:wow!! 3300+ comments!! Plus all the other posts like this!! Keep it coming guardians! Make our voices heard[/b]! [b]edit 3: my fellow guardians, Bungie has taken down all other posts. They ignored us. But we have not lost yet. Keep this bumping and trending folks![/b][/spoiler][/quote][/quote]

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          • Nothing's obsolete in non-competetive Crucible.

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          • Just stop. Things change get over it. What we really need is a wardrobe system so we can collect the skins of the armor but not have to lug the armor around year to year. That's half the reason people have full vaults.

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          • Bungie lies, lies, lies Don't believe the hype. A great game, but make a decision and stick to it.

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          • Edited by Joutssen: 2/11/2016 8:25:52 PM
            I feel you,I've been playing Destiny since that almighty 9th September 2014(day one) ,and now I get pretty sad when I see that now players can get the things I grinded my ass for a lot easier,new players can reach level 25 with just a consumable (while I had to play a lot back in early year 1 to get there and start doing VoG. And I can't even use my year 1 raid gear,but you know...I grinded the hell out of raids to get every piece of armor,same for weapons. I might understand why they let players reach max level faster,so they can enjoy TTK expansion; but I don't understand why Bungie eliminated the exotic bounties and let players get the exotic weapons by just buying engrams from xûr,I remember how much I grinded to get and complete all my three Elder Ciphers,the Thorn bounty and the Necrochasm... But seems like Destiny is not a gaming experience anymore,it has become more of a business...

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          • Omg this again really . -blam!-ing really man GTFO

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          • I still love to see this post from time to time.

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          • I mean, yea, it sucks but seriously, still?? You guys are like a bunch of women. You just won't let go of this, will you?

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          • Got the vex and nechrocasm straight away never had to work to get any item I wanted year 1 RNG blessed me but still to have them become pointless is not on

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          • Bumped and liked

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          • This

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          • Bump.

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          • Their quote states that they heard our feedback and were listening. That's all we want now, to be heard as a community.

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            • Edited by GANTZ: 2/9/2016 10:55:50 PM
              [quote]Bungie Weekly Update 12/04/2014: "In the months to come, your quest to become more powerful will have more avenues that lead to satisfaction. The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete. Since the reveal, we’ve read a lot of ideas for how this could have been done better. Your feedback is clear: The time you have invested in your stuff should be respected.[/quote] there was a huge community backlash when TDB DLC launched because they made people reset their tediously levelled up exotics and forced em to pay lots of ingame currency and do more annoying grind just to get back what they already had before dlc i had a friend who was hardcore about destiny , he grinded and obtained all pre DLC exotics and maxxed em just a few weeks before they came up with that TDB item reset bullshit , he was so devastated he quit to play for the most part already at that point instead of learning from it , deej blatantly lied to the players about respecting their efforts and items not become obsolete , then bungie went on to do a even more disrespectful measure by making all out stuff obsolete with TTK , that was the sad part, the funny part is they just ruined their own game and made lots of people incl. me quit as a matter of that , how are we supposed to believe anything what they say if they lie like this to us all the time? why bother wasting time with this insanely grindly yet content lacking game , if the sole reason of playng (obtaining items) is being negated with every DLC? is this a company worth supporting with our hard earned money that does all of this ? For buying their DLC product we get a big middlefinger instead of a thank you... content is being made pointless, items obsolete , less variety , less stuff to do .... yet they dare to overprice that crap (2x normal dlc price for TDB and HOW , 4x normal dlc price for TTK) and call it "expansions"

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              • https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/191180056/0/0

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              • Bungie has lost all my respect. They are a bunch of clowns who have no idea what the actual -blam!- they are doing.

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              • Agreed

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