I believe that the black spindle beats the thousand yard in damage against bosses in the raid. Yet some still think the thousand yard wins.
Which one do you guys think is better?
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Idk Oryx - 1000ys Daughter- 1000ys Warpriest- black spindle Golgoroth- black spindle
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For warpriest or 6 orb strat on golgoroth, a triple tap 1kys will win in total damage over black spindle. Black spindle has higher dps though
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I use black spindle on golg because you can't miss that crit. I use 1kys with spray and play on most other stuff.
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Vendor 1K with reloader gauntlets does more that Black Spindle. I have both at 320, I only use Black Spindle on Golf because of the possible debuff.
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Black spindle for the fact you won't have to reload
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ToM w/ Ward of Dawn and Blessing of Light
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got both at 320 and gotta say my 1000 yard with casket mag and triple tap puts up more damage at endscreen faster rate of fire and quick reloading on sniper
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There's a dps comparison. If 1ks has spray and play and triple tap, and you have sniper reload gaunts, then it can definitely out dps the spindle.
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Im gonna say i use 1k stare but i do have Black Spindel and i have boots and a body that lets me carry 24 sniper rounds and i hit all crits and i can still keep up with BS DPS cause eather way the time it take for me to duck into cover and reload pretty much take the same amount of time the same person with BS and ducking in and out of bubbles. Only reason u have 1k stare is cause i never had black hammer and i dont really like haveing a exotic as a secondary when i other weapon exotics i like but i still keep up with BS so it really depends on perks also
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Watch it on YouTube
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Maybe 10% (more like 5% or less) of 1000YS the rolls are good enough to compete with spindle. They do exist but are so rare that for the most part spindle wins. I have seen people use Sleeper but they don't win top spot but do get 2-4 in total damage. Bottom line: Black spindle with its perks is CONSISTENTLY the most [u]common[/u] [b][u][i]AND[/i][/u][/b]overall [u]efficient[/u]choice for raid bosses. However, in the right hands with the right perks sleeper and 1YS can beat it but it's not common or the person isn't effective.
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Touch of Malice with blessing still beats everything
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Scrubs: *wipes nose* "I'll have you all know, my 1k stare with this, this, that, and this, along with my sniper reload gauntlets and the aura can damage higher than your silly spindles!"
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Edited by OurWildebeest: 1/9/2016 8:32:09 PMSleeper beats Spindle on Warpriest. ToM with BoL beats Sleeper on Warpriest IF your team has practice doing it. I haven't tested 1000YS so I could only speculate, but I think it would be close or might win slightly.
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Which boss? I like stare for warpriest and spindle for golgoroth.
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Unless you're doing Oryx or the sisters, I'd go for the black spindle, despite the fact I never use it but I'd rather use touch of malice and 1K yard stare or stillpiercer. Golgoroth or warpriest probably I'd definitely go for spindle since you don't get invincibility so malice wouldn't be as good and their crits are so easy to hit.
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1kys will outperform bs in dps only with a certain roll, along with the time and precision needed.
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Black Spindle unless... Yard Stare beat black spindle if they have: Triple Tap Casket Mag Spray and Play
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1lys and Ss :)
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Black Spindle wins in damage in pretty much every way. Though some parts of the raid it's impractical to use spindle when you could be using ToM or Sleeper.
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Edited by Powerath: 1/9/2016 7:18:30 PM1000 Yard Stare. You're forgetting that most players will miss their three precision shots on bosses that move. Only thing Black Spindle should be pulled out for is Golgoroth since it pretty easy to hit those shots.
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Really depends on the boss. 1KYS has potential to be better if you have the right perks (and moment of speed). You can also use the Sleeper Simulant with this gun. Spindle is a very reliable weapon that melts bosses. For Golgoroth, it's King.
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If they think 1000yd is better in raids then they're stupid. Or they simply never tested it. Which is weird since BS is easy to get and 1000yd can be bought
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Sleeper Simulant or black Spindle more like. Those two exotics [u][i][b]MELT[/b][/i][/u] your enemies
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I have the vendor 1kys with triple tap. I run faster sniper reload gloves with it. Its 320. When I raid I can usually outdamage black spindles. The thing is black spindle works great if you're never gonna miss a crit. I usually hit them but sometimes warpriest staggers as I shoot and its messed me up. So 1kys for me so I get near max damage even if you miss one crit. Also can run 320 sleeper simulant if running 1kys.
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Most! Not all of the people saying 1000 YS don't have spindle