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10/1/2009 5:22:47 PM
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Glyphs and treasure hunting; the truth about the Sword in ODST
[quote][/quote][b]If you are just joining us, the main discussion of this thread has shifted to unlocking the secret associated with the stonehenge rooms and glyphs around New Mombassa at night. The following info about the sword [i]led to[/i] the idea of an unlockable easter egg in ODST, and is still worty of a read. If you wish to join the treasure hunt (why not!) skip to the last pages of this thread and catch up!
Thanks for your contribution, and have fun![/b][quote][/quote]
Sorry, forgot to include this at first: This is all work done by I adJACENt I, and Pope Rex. Pope started the idea by looking at the Medal Chest, and then we both worked on it from there.
As most of you are aware, there is no Energy Sword in ODST. Except for [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/profile.aspx?uid=7182993]this guy[/url], but he doesn't count. ;) Energy Swords are the [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_sword]signature weapon of the Sangheili (Elites)[/url], and since all of the Elites featured in ODST are already dead, it's no surprise that you cannot find a Sword anywhere. There is, however, and empty Sword hilt near a bunch of dead Elites and Brutes in the Tayari Plaza level, when Buck asks Dare "What's with all the dead Elites?"
Well, as some of you may know, there are two medal GIFs in the ODST GIF database pertaining to Swords. The [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/odst/medals/gif_large/sword_spree.gif]Sword Spree[/url], and the [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/odst/medals/gif_large/slice_and_dice.gif]Slice and Dice[/url]. In Halo 3, the Sword Spree was obtained by killing 5 enemies in a row with the Sword without dying, and the Slice and Dice bumped that number up to 10.
Those images were obtained by viewing the Page source of a person's [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/CareerStatsODST.aspx?player=I%20adJACENt%20I]ODST medal chest[/url]. These pics are not to be confused with the [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/medals/fd6bd89a-db65-4f69-997b-631c52596729.gif]Sword Spree[/url] and [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/medals/0bd30346-acfe-4345-88c7-9a8f7c244cf1.gif]Slice and Dice[/url] from Halo 3. Completely different URLs and sizes. If you attempt to go further up on that url, and try to view all medals, you get a [url=http://www.bungie.net/images/halo3stats/odst/medals/gif_large/]"Sorry, but you are not authorized to view this page"[/url] message, which is understandable. Whether there's a secret or not, I doubt Bungie wants us viewing every single little GIF they have for the stats.
So the question is: Why were there Sword Spree medals made up for ODST, if they did not include a Sword in the game? There are three viable options here...
1. The medals were made due to someone initially thinking there was a Sword in the game. Maybe Elites were in the first stages of the game, maybe we could have stumbled on that fight between the Brutes and Elites, and picked up a Sword off a dead Elite. Maybe they were there just in case someone decided to put a Sword in later. Definitely plausible.
2. Two words, three letters: DLC. Maybe a Sword will be included in some DLC further down the road. DLC has not been confirmed at this point, and [url=http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/news/no-dlc-for-odst.html]there are currently no plans to release any[/url]. So...
3. There is a Sword somewhere in the game, that is meant to be either unlocked or found, and this is what I will focus on for the rest of the thread.
Our first clue to there being something unlockable was the ODST Medal Chest. If you [url=http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll319/XGC_Jacen_Solo/ODSTMedalChest.jpg]look at this picture[/url], you will see two areas I wish to draw your attention to. First is the Weapon Spree medals. Notice how there are black boxes to the right of the sprees of 10. Now, on the bottom, after Hero, the medal box ends, and the last two slots are just grayed out. Why would there be black boxes in the Weapon Spree block, but not at the bottom of the chest?
Also, I forgot to add the following in, Pope reminded me of it...
[quote]In the source code of the ODST medal page, the black medal boxes appear as an object type "hidden medal" as part of a "medalblock" class.
Here:
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Well, we figured there must be some other medal, that no one else has found and unlocked yet. Since these blocks were next to the Weapon Sprees of 10, we first assumed that there would be a spree of much more than 10. Pope tested this theory out, and found that 100 straight splatters will still not give you any extra medal (we tried that [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=32032311&player=I%20adJACENt%20I]here[/url]). We next thought that maybe there was something outrageous you had to do, like playing an entire Round/Set on Legendary while only getting Splatters.
So along this line of thinking, we started trying out various URL's to find a GIF of a medal not on the medal chest. At one point, I started trying some of the Halo 3 MM medals, just for the hell of it. Sure enough, I found the Sword Spree and Slice and Dice. As pointed out earlier, these were part of the ODST GIFs, not the Halo 3 GIFs. Two completely separate URLs.
So now we have these two medals, and no way of achieving them. If we are correct in our assumptions, there is a Sword somewhere in this game, most likely Campaign. We scoured the streets of New Mombosa, looking for any sign of this Sword. We found the empty hilt in Tayari Plaza, and we also came across an odd saying from the Superintendent on this same mission. When we first meet a local guy, he sends us into some buildings to flank a few Brutes. While transitioning from one buliding to another, we hear Buck say something like "What the hell happened here?" And the SI responds "Slow down. Final notice: Bill past due." Could this be a clue? Does anyone know why the Si would say that?
Another possible clue is the little "Stonehenge" room with the two dead Elites. It has 6 pillars, with the 'Y' markings on them, two dead Elites, two Engineers floating around, and a Carbine on the floor next to one of the Elites. What are those markings for? Do they show directions to anything, similar to all of the SI symbols around the city that point to Audion Logs and Beacons? Why do they look different, without anything between the prongs?
These same symbols are located in the Tayari Plaza section at night, while playing as the Rookie, where all the dead Elites and Brutes are. Why are these special symbols only where Elites are at?
There are a couple of other similar rooms around, too, all accessible through a Security Door. Some of them have Engineers, some with Audio Logs, some with other enemies. On the VISR map, these rooms show the pillars inside of them, but when you get into the room, all you can see are shadows where the pillars once stood (Mickey's pod crash site is one example). What's the deal with that?
So, we're left with many questions. Why are there spaces for medals next to the Weapon Sprees of 10? Why are there Sword medals when there is no Sword (that we know of) in the game? What are these symbols that only show up near the dead Elites?
[Edited on 10.04.2009 2:25 PM PDT]
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Well yea there is a sword saddly its not useable
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] maverickninja97 Could the fact that where you find two sword hilts near a dead elite in Tayari Plaza, right next to them is the word "BELIEVE"? It could be just an easter egg to halo 3 that just happened to be next to swords, obviously. Or could it be "BELIEVE" as in "believe there are swords, because it's true." Just a thought.[/quote] @maverick~:It's more likely a tribute to Halo 3's "Believe" campaign ads. @Everyone else: Has a sword actually been found in ODST yet? I followed this thread for awhile when it first popped up but it hasn't been updated since October 2009...
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i think you need the ghost to get to where the sword is because thats odd hows theres just one solo ghost in MS
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Could the fact that where you find two sword hilts near a dead elite in Tayari Plaza, right next to them is the word "BELIEVE"? It could be just an easter egg to halo 3 that just happened to be next to swords, obviously. Or could it be "BELIEVE" as in "believe there are swords, because it's true." Just a thought. [Edited on 04.18.2010 4:10 PM PDT]
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ok peeps virgil is a engineer engineers create the new gyphs the covernant are looking for a ark if you look at the help station the SI logo will be there and to the right is thick white arc and to the left is (7) colours and they are dividing by a black line which split them into 3,4 7 cubed equal 343 also 3+4 equals 7 are you following me 7th coloum also know as the rainbow effect oh and there is a wall that changes it can show a y glyph or a super diglyph y with 2 SI logo on it or a super triglyph that is all im saying for now have fun trying to unravel the mystery Super Sleuth upside down
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I think it is really because the game designers wanted to have a little modding fun of their own when the game was in the stages if being made so they added a sword and had some fun. Maybe they wanted to butterfly jump Halo 2 style and do some cool stuff of their own. Who knows?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Teh wolf 117 But what about the glyphs in the game? They have to mean something?[/quote] Most of them can be explained. The common ones are there to be clues or signposts, if you want, and the Empty glyphs are there to respect the fallen Elites. Infact, the only glyph without a good meaning is the Super TriGlyph ([url=http://subculturelifestyle.com/gallery/v/SGP/glyphs/YGlyphs/SuperTri/96399161-Full.jpg.html]this[/url], and even it could be explained by the fact that it is next to the seemingly biggest weapon cache of Covenant. (I refuse to believe that though. :P) Yet I believe there is still something! Keep looking into this!
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But what about the glyphs in the game? They have to mean something?
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there is no sword in the game the medals were replaced with sticky sprees if you dont believe me check my profile i have every medal aviable in odst
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I agree, the people at bungie are reall good at hiding something that takes a good amount of work to find... it also keeps us 'hard core wanna find all the tricks" players busy and in the game.Ang all the curios types playing as well
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I hate to say it, but I think we're screwed. I doubt that we'll find it. WE SUCK!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SeasonedVeterans 3. There is a Sword somewhere in the game, that is meant to be either unlocked or found, and this is what I will focus on for the rest of the thread.[/quote]And so the hunt for the sacred sword begins! Haha! :D I agree with this idea since there was a Scarab Gun in Halo 2.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkAero Trooper [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SOS ODST Question....How could any of this even take place? I mean this game takes place just after the explosion of new mombasa city in Halo 2. Sooo if the city was suppose to be obliterated, how could any buildings or anything in the city be left. Also why would there be the need of the covenant to come back to the city when the finished what they did in Halo 2. So there would also be no need for the ODST to step in thus renedering no game should have been made around the storyline of the city[/quote] outskirts and metropolis took place in old mombasa which was destroyed in the slipspace odst takes place in new mombasa[/quote] He asked me, don't take my moment of glory! But he is right, the explosion happened over Old Mombasa, leaving the New Mombasa untouched. FYI, the Portal to thee Arc located near Mombasa, they stayed. Also, they needed to kill Virgil (the Engineer) to avoid security leak. Happy? [That was pretty off topic btw...] [Edited on 04.06.2010 8:26 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SOS ODST Question....How could any of this even take place? I mean this game takes place just after the explosion of new mombasa city in Halo 2. Sooo if the city was suppose to be obliterated, how could any buildings or anything in the city be left. Also why would there be the need of the covenant to come back to the city when the finished what they did in Halo 2. So there would also be no need for the ODST to step in thus renedering no game should have been made around the storyline of the city[/quote] outskirts and metropolis took place in old mombasa which was destroyed in the slipspace odst takes place in new mombasa
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the post above is a responce to SGT Tidy and Imppa
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Question....How could any of this even take place? I mean this game takes place just after the explosion of new mombasa city in Halo 2. Sooo if the city was suppose to be obliterated, how could any buildings or anything in the city be left. Also why would there be the need of the covenant to come back to the city when the finished what they did in Halo 2. So there would also be no need for the ODST to step in thus renedering no game should have been made around the storyline of the city
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SeasonedVeterans How's this going?[/quote] its not
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How's this going?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ecartman1214 I donno how the discussion has shifted, but by now its probably just a myth, I mean, there could have been swords in the game originally and then Bungie decided to take them out near the end. Instead of redesign the webpage for medal stats, which probably took a good bit of work, to have the swords removed, they simply "hid" them.[/quote] Yeah, just sounds like a repeat of the Flood Juggernaut from Halo 2 to me. Just in a different form. Interesting read though!
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I donno how the discussion has shifted, but by now its probably just a myth, I mean, there could have been swords in the game originally and then Bungie decided to take them out near the end. Instead of redesign the webpage for medal stats, which probably took a good bit of work, to have the swords removed, they simply "hid" them.
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Saved, also 70% of your links are messed up.
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the sword is way better than the hammer
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Good observations
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Tidy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blue Jess I think the "Y" shaped symbols have been drawn by the engineers as a way of mourning the Elites. I think they liked the elites as they were probably treated much better and the brutes do bad things to them =([/quote] That sounds like a good idea. That sounds like something that Bungie would do. Just a thought, what if you moved a body of an elite from the area where the brutes and elites were fighting to each of the "stonehenge" areas? :l[/quote]You couldn't get them to all three, since the game engine can maintain only 2 districts. You could get them to THE Stonehenge, though. [But it would take helluva time.]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blue Jess I think the "Y" shaped symbols have been drawn by the engineers as a way of mourning the Elites. I think they liked the elites as they were probably treated much better and the brutes do bad things to them =([/quote] That sounds like a good idea. That sounds like something that Bungie would do. Just a thought, what if you moved a body of an elite from the area where the brutes and elites were fighting to each of the "stonehenge" areas? :l
