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8/15/2009 6:23:47 AM
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Halo 4, In plain sight. (I was at least part right)

This is an old ass thread from a couple years ago, before ODST even came out. Some has been proven wrong, by Halo 4 has been announced. Now we just have to wait and see how accurate my theory holds to be. _________________________________________ The new addition has been made to the second post. It involves Halo Legends (and now Waypoint), and what it means. (Look for the new link near bottom!) I would like to direct your attention first on the last terminal. If accessed on normal difficulty. [quote] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR] > CONN. > . > . > NO. THERE IS MORE. > BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. > . > . > NOT YET. > . > . X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/... X.XX.713> refl[/quote] Most of us assume being worthy meant accessing the terminal on Legendary. This is to me plain out wrong. On every other terminal if accessed at different difficulties, you will see different messages about the same thing, or different perspectives of the same event. Also it makes no logical sense because you need not kill anything to reach the last terminal. In Legendary it holds the following message to the player from Mediciant himself. [quote] You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another? You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive. But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer. Atonement. And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example. [/quote] Now this is very important. The first part. What did he have to do to get there? Does [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33381763]this[/url] answer your question? I couldn't fit it in here. Now I believe that thread is completely logical, and a master piece onto itself. Now the [i] very [/i] important part. [quote]The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.[/quote] The path ahead? what path? And why is it fraught with peril? Could this have something to do with you not being "worthy" yet? Next important part. [quote]But I would have my masters know that I have changed.[/quote] Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They [i] did [/i] make it in, and out.... [quote]I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.[/quote] So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways. The covenant knew of some kind of "great journey". They thought that if the rings where activated this would happen. What has begun to recently be thought of (thanks wolverfrog) is that Truth [i] knew [/i] more than we thought he did (can someone place link to that?). Now in Halo 3 on those holo-panel things truth says things such as "here we will be safe from Halo's fire!". Could it be possible that Truth learned more from MB about the rings? That they wipe out life and somehow initiate a "journey' of some kind? Could there be Truth to it after all?. "the best place to put a lie is in between two Truths" And vice versa. Did the Forerunners actually leave the galaxy to its own fate? Embarking on a journey for truth? enlightenment? This requires more evidence. But we will get to that latter. For now I want to support the Mediciant Bias theory. I believe that Mediciant is inside of Cortana and chief. This is how she knows of replacement rings and the Ark. [quote]////////////error////////////[restart search] search:[[error]].no search started. .error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A 05-032 :allow access. 0452-9 :no way. 05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know. 0452-9 : what are you talking about. 05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\[/quote] Cortana chatting with MB at end of Halo 2. He wants access to escape from Offensive who has managed to survive all these years somehow. She must have allowed access. Now more supporting evidence, from an unlikely source. The Cortana Letters. [quote]Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped [u]space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine,[/u] itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.[/quote] The AI is Cortana, the Hybrid war machine is Chief. This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence. [quote]The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [u]Their [/u]footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe. There are no immovable objects. Everything gives if you push hard enough. [/quote] Note "We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [i]There[/i] footsteps! Could the forerunner believe in a similar concept that the Precursors made some kind of journey? Similar to that of the covenant worshiping the forerunners? Could there be some Tru7h to there philosophy after all? Did the forerunners after firing the Array repopulate the galaxy with life and left it to grow on its own? No doubt they wouldn't have had the man power and go around and collect all there lost ships and cities etc. MB's picies would have been left scattered. But then the question is, where did the Forerunner [i] go? [/i]. Again the last terminal. "The path ahead". The mysterious legendary planet. Now there is much evedince that MB controlled the portal and changed the coordinates. The forerunner say themselves: [quote]The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.[/quote] Again note "The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose.". That thing is the portal. It would save us by transporting us to the Arc. Now multiple portals where probably built in key planets. All to transport to the Arc. But for some reason where "special". We have similar DNA to forerunner, evedince (however little) shows that we had similar body shape and especially feelings and emotions. The relation ship between Didact and the librarian stands testament. We where remarkably similar in many ways. The letter mentions the ark saving us, and another purpose. The portals "true" purpose is where the forerunner (at least some) went. A place probably precursor. Outside the galaxy, some kind of cloud of stellar debri. What could it be? Who knows. Nothing seems to let on what the "Great journey" is in truth. Also note in the last message "nobody there to reclaim it". If we are going to reclaim it, it means we where there before. And considering our similarities with the forerunners could we possibly have a common ancestor? Could this lead to a possible Halo 3 squeal? Not a Halo 4 but a sequel none the less. Something to think about. Also a late note. It seems the Forerunner left the galaxy to us. There technology and knowledge. It looks like we weren't supposed to find the portal until we where "worthy". Ready for the knowledge and Legacy that came with it. (Continues) [Edited on 07.30.2011 2:39 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Starless Legacy I'm always impressed with how much effort is put into something that is only contributing a community. Good work.[/quote] I second this.... Now lets see how all of this plays out :P

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Starless Legacy I'm always impressed with how much effort is put into something that is only contributing a community. Good work.[/quote] Appreciated.

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  • I'm always impressed with how much effort is put into something that is only contributing a community. Good work.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KazPluto ok, can someone answer me a few questions? i havent investigated halo enough to know... here are my questions: So, we killed the covenant? what about the individual jackal, brute, and grunt planets? The Elites are still alive, right? what are they doing? is the thing in the halo 4 trailer a portal, forerunner planet, spaceship, or something else? Do you think that the pistol grenade launcher will be an extremely uncool weapon? What do you think that the forerunners, precursors (or whoever the enemys may be) vehicles will be named after? In the unsc, vehicles are names after animals. Covenant vehicles are named after different kinds of ghosts ( disincluding scarab and locust). New enemy's ships? we dont know. Arbiter was in the UNSC ship at the end of halo 3. is he in halo 4? or is there something i misunderstood? Some of my questions could be potentially stupid, sorry. i havent understood enough if so. But the one im most interested in : where is arbiter, and the elites? [/quote] maybe they will name the new enemy vehicles after cheese. for example, "we got a provolone coming up the middle and that peper jack is creaming us."

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  • because the entry is so long i completely believe it.

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  • the pistol grenade launcher is a new weapon masterchief somehow aquired during his long sleep like his markVII armor that he has in the trailer.

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  • that planet is forerunner. it is like a bomb shelter from the halo rings.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Newpokerman You really went to great lengths for this.[/quote] Thanks. Still holding up too.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KazPluto ok, can someone answer me a few questions? i havent investigated halo enough to know... here are my questions: So, we killed the covenant? what about the individual jackal, brute, and grunt planets? The Elites are still alive, right? what are they doing? is the thing in the halo 4 trailer a portal, forerunner planet, spaceship, or something else? Do you think that the pistol grenade launcher will be an extremely uncool weapon? What do you think that the forerunners, precursors (or whoever the enemys may be) vehicles will be named after? In the unsc, vehicles are names after animals. Covenant vehicles are named after different kinds of ghosts ( disincluding scarab and locust). New enemy's ships? we dont know. Arbiter was in the UNSC ship at the end of halo 3. is he in halo 4? or is there something i misunderstood? Some of my questions could be potentially stupid, sorry. i havent understood enough if so. But the one im most interested in : where is arbiter, and the elites? [/quote](1) The war might or might not be over, but it surely is for the moment.(2) Elites are confused over what to do kinda, there still wondering over their religon.(3) I belive the halo 4 trailer shows Master Cheif going toward a precursor world or somthing. it might be foreruner, or, in a stretch, even covenant which its probobly not. (4) the gernade launcher pistol might be campaign and forge only, meaning its OP and fun to use. (5)interesting question. Maybe after religous terms, like "GENISIS". (6)The ship at the end of Halo 3 split in half. the arbiter went to earth i think, while master Cheif half went to the legendary planet. (7)Like i said the elites are trying to figure out where they stand. they might not even partner whith the humans, so we could have elites as enemies potentionally. I know this has been answered already but now you have answers to the other questions, or more like speculation. :) [Edited on 09.10.2011 9:46 AM PDT]

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  • You really went to great lengths for this.

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  • Well it has recently been confirmed or rather heavily hinted at that the Forerunners are still alive. Perhaps the LP is the last of the Forerunners colonies, it's not that much of a stretch now is it? Bias is using/used John as way to show his former masters that he has repented and (this is just my opinion) has sent John in his place. I think John is going to be humanities ambassador to the Forerunners or perhaps simply their representative. 343 said that they would be exploring John's destiny and ultimate importance in the great scheme of things. It's seems that John is even more important than anyone of us has ever imagined. I think that the Forerunners will judge John to see if Humanity is finally ready to receive their inheritance and reclaim their rightful place in the Galaxy. Just my thoughts on the matter.

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  • im just going to say it who also thinks that the four runners are going to make a come back i mean they cept DNA sampls of all of evry thing in the univers inclooding the flood(huge mistake) y not them?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KazPluto ok, can someone answer me a few questions? i havent investigated halo enough to know... here are my questions: So, we killed the covenant? what about the individual jackal, brute, and grunt planets? The Elites are still alive, right? what are they doing? is the thing in the halo 4 trailer a portal, forerunner planet, spaceship, or something else? Do you think that the pistol grenade launcher will be an extremely uncool weapon? What do you think that the forerunners, precursors (or whoever the enemys may be) vehicles will be named after? In the unsc, vehicles are names after animals. Covenant vehicles are named after different kinds of ghosts ( disincluding scarab and locust). New enemy's ships? we dont know. Arbiter was in the UNSC ship at the end of halo 3. is he in halo 4? or is there something i misunderstood? Some of my questions could be potentially stupid, sorry. i havent understood enough if so. But the one im most interested in : where is arbiter, and the elites? [/quote] Arbiter was in the front half of the ship which made it through the portal, landed back on earth and said his final words to Lord Hood before departing to his home world. The elites separated from the Covenant during The Great Schism . Brutes replaced the elites as Honor guards to the prophets and were soon given higher positions of power instead of elites. Around this time, Arbiter found out the truth behind the Halo rings and soon the entire elite species formed the Covenant Separatists that you see in Halo 3.

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  • ok, can someone answer me a few questions? i havent investigated halo enough to know... here are my questions: So, we killed the covenant? what about the individual jackal, brute, and grunt planets? The Elites are still alive, right? what are they doing? is the thing in the halo 4 trailer a portal, forerunner planet, spaceship, or something else? Do you think that the pistol grenade launcher will be an extremely uncool weapon? What do you think that the forerunners, precursors (or whoever the enemys may be) vehicles will be named after? In the unsc, vehicles are names after animals. Covenant vehicles are named after different kinds of ghosts ( disincluding scarab and locust). New enemy's ships? we dont know. Arbiter was in the UNSC ship at the end of halo 3. is he in halo 4? or is there something i misunderstood? Some of my questions could be potentially stupid, sorry. i havent understood enough if so. But the one im most interested in : where is arbiter, and the elites?

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  • I can only call this true dedication to Halo. I truly hope your theory is right because it would be amazing to learn more about the Forerunners and the Precursors. I also hope that the Legendary planet from Halo 3 and Halo 4 is Onyx. If it is Onyx there might be a possibilty that the Chief reunites with the other spartans and kick some Sentinel asses (even though they don't have an ass =P).

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  • For some reason the text on OPs post is moving around like the Flood levels or the Green sft on Reach... That or I'm just really fkin tired...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog Most people who play Halo don't know what a Forerunner is, a lot of my friends think the Covenant made the Halo rings, and that the Flood were a Covenant experiment gone wrong. A game about the Forerunners would be confusing enough, bring the Precursors into it and everyone would be confused. If they do sequels to Halo 3, they should be set a few months after, with you clearing up the last remnants of the Covenant; after all, High Charity and it's fleet can't have been all that remained.[/quote]I honestly expect Halo 4 to provides some insight on the Precursors, the Human-Forerunner War, and the Human-Prophet Alliance.

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  • hmmm... yes maybe since marathon takes place in 2800 maybe after halo 4 they (343i/ bungie) will make a remake of the old marathon game. its a theory but i think it might happen. 343i announced that halo 4 would be the beginning of a new trilogy but they didn't say if it would be a new marathon trilogy or a new halo trilogy.we'll just have to wait and see

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  • [b]Halo... one of the biggest on going game mysteries of all time.[/b]

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  • Such a brilliant and interesting read, I can really see the connections now, I always thought there would be a Halo 4 and with some of the relations you mentioned but still the OP has made an impressive read and something that is so believable for the game when it comes out. Do you think Bungies old game Marathon is somehow linked to the beginning of the end, so the beginning of the new game will be the start towards Marathon, now this may be ridiculous I don't know but I swear quite a few years back on here someone mentioned that because Marathon is set way after Halo it may be that it's also like a continuation of Halo, I don't know but it sounds interesting anyway.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Th3Bl4ckKn1ght Wall o' Text *quiver quiver*[/quote] This is the best wall of text this website has ever seen.

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  • Wall o' Text *quiver quiver*

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  • I shat enough bricks after rading this thread to built the great wall of china. If this is not part of the plot that 343i is doing, their doing it wrong. Because, honestly, this all makes sense. [Edited on 08.20.2011 9:16 PM PDT]

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  • Here's my theory: Acoording to the books Dr.Halsey, Kelly, Linda and Fred are on that shield planet in Ghosts of Onyx. In the halo 4 trailer masterchief and cortana are heading toward what is apparently that planet. I think the chief will meet up with them. this will tie nicely with the ending of halo wars where the spirit of fire is in space. Now after the spirit of fire reaches the shield planet, chief and the others will have to use the spirit of fire to escape somehow. now somewhere in the story they will meet up with the gray team from the cole protocol. thats pretty much all i have for now.

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  • GLaDOS went rampant *rimshot* kill me.

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  • you guys got great theories but remeber how off other peoples stories were for halo 3 and reach. i will admit the story is suppose to be coming to a close so maybe this time someone will be right

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