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11/1/2015 1:35:13 PM
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The problem with the raid.

While the raid is the best thing in the game since VoG. I have kind of gotten tired of it. The problem isn't the lack of elemental primaries in my opinion. Ithink the problem is the lack of a " Vex mythoclass" of kings fall. You see i have absolutely no problem with RNG. The number of Chatterwhites i have gotten from VoG is astounding, yet i kept going back. Why? There was always a chance to get that one piece of loot that eluded me. Whether it was a fatebringer, vex or raid helm , there was always a chance i could get it. The problem here is not only is there not a super badass gun of wanting , but for the loot you do get, the light level you receive it as is random. That means that not only can you possibly NOT get the peice of gear you want , but even if you do get it, it may be rendered useless by it's like level. We are basically fighting double RNG from hell. [b]TL;DR The lack of a " Vex mythoclass" type weapon and double RNG is what is holding the Raid back from acclaimer awsomeness.[/b] Do you agree? Disagree? Discuss.

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  • I think touch o malice should have been for completing hard mode not normal

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  • Edited by Airturtle86: 11/2/2015 10:49:53 AM
    Why does no one -blam!-ing understand this. [b][i][u]If you get a drop, with that awesome roll you've been looking for, it isn't -blam!-ing useless! Infuse that bitch, use it and stop complaining! The guns don't suck, your life sucks AROUND the guns![/u][/i][/b]

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  • Nope. It's that half of the weapons are garbage compared to what you can get outside of the raid. The only thing half decent is the pulse. I solely do the raid for infusion fuel and maybe a piece of armor here and there if it matches. Overall the raid isn't even worth my time.

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  • Edited by Haru: 11/2/2015 4:11:29 AM
    [i]Mythoclast.[/i] [spoiler]My-tho-clast. Clast bro.[/spoiler]

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    • I agree, but I think they are holding this for the "challenge mode" they have just started reading us with. (More console has a video about what they have told us so far) We are getting the 3 last fragments there, and I bet the 3 exotic armors per class that are so far missing will be there too.

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    • The loot system in the raid is a joke, and anyone that worked on it should be ashamed to take credit for it. Can only do the raid once a week, only get molding shards that do not give you anything extra, then you get your fourth pair of boots and yep they are the lowest light pair yet! I'm stuck at 309, can't find a hard mode group, and physically can not play trials. How do I get higher with this shitty loot system?

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      • Agreed . I ran the shit out VOG until I got the Vex . Something about the chance of getting it every time was so fun

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      • Agreed. I should never get drops lower than my equipped gear IMO. Why would I want a 310 harrowed raid rocket launcher when I have a 317 lmg on and a 313 RL sitting on my guy?

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      • Yea I hate the loot system for the raid. It's obvious now the trails is the better end game content. Better drops and more drops... And is debatable that it is much easier.

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      • Idk.... I kind of feel like the Oryx fight is beyond stupid and, honestly, just annoying as -blam!-. It's not particularly hard, it's just a bunch of random bullshit thrown together

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      • The misspelled words make this post seem like a joke. I think it was a conscious decision to make the Raid weapon a Boss burner weapon, and not a super weapon. Touch of Malice is tailor made for the Oryx/Daughters fights, and not much else. This is the right decision in my opinion. Vex Mythoclast was a great weapon, and very fun to use, but it was way too powerful at first, and then almost worthless after. Hard/challenge mode should drop a good gun, but not a superweapon like the Mythoclast. There could still be some hidden weapon in Challenge mode that we have yet to discover. It could be the kind of weapon you are looking for.

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      • This raid definitely needs a "Vex" type of weapon.

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        Wait moldering shards aren't the only thing that drops

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        • Cant you just, ya know, infuse better gear into your low light level gear and make it better?

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          • Agreed. I totally feel you bro.

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          • Bump

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            • About the low light loot, I agree, it needs to be fixed. About the "Mythoclast", Touch of Malice is the exotic weapon of this raid.

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              • Edited by mja calg: 11/1/2015 4:49:02 PM
                I agree, especially on the Double RNG aspect of light and object RNG. In fact, each time I have completed the Raid I have gotten 2 of the same thing, like two of the raid ARs, two arms, two chest plates etc. I need a Raid helmet and a high end ghost to make the hard raid easier. I carry 60 + mouldering shards with my Titan, and get 4 items each time I run it, but nothign earth shattering or extremely useful that I need. Mostly, I infuse good weapons i have with the mediocre weapons I get in the raid. And about the only reason I want to do the Hard Raid is because it has that last XBox Achievement I need to make the game 100% done. There are no collectible must have elemental weapons in the raid that give it that strong repeat incentive as in VOG or Crota.

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              • I agree, Mythoclast was my all time favorite gun in year 1 and they have yet to surprise me with another gun that's even close to an equal to it. The touch of malice is nothing in comparison.

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              • I have to say you do pose a good point. The only thing that's making me go back is the helmet and Chestpiece that still elude me. Though I'll give it to bungie that the infusion idea is quite good as atleast one can see people with a few different gear combinations. Let's hope next time they can get down the perfect balance of RNG and Quest Gear. If not to atleast take a step forward.

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