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10/8/2015 11:11:58 PM
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Latest shotgun nerf shows Bungie is tone deaf
They're removing shot package from all shotguns. That's Bungie's response to the CRUCIBLE shotgun problem. Just remove it game wide. It makes very little sense that an issue in PvP has to be addressed game wide. Last I checked plenty of crucible players wanted it gone (myself included) but I didn't see anyone asking for a PvE nerf. They have shown us they are capable of nerfing PvP directly without affecting PvE and vice versa, so why continue the blanket nerfing when it's ONE game mode that needs it? It continues to amaze me the amount of utter amateur hour that Bungie displays when it comes to "balancing". If you continue "balancing" game wide when that decision is largely demanded by only 1/2 of your game, YOU WILL NEVER ACHIEVE A GOOD BALANCE!!!
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6 RepliesI am inclined to agree Shotguns are a prime example of a weapon archtype that begs for PvP and PvE nerf/buff distinction.
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15 RepliesActually, they were listening. People have been complaining about shot package forever. And I recently suggested removing shot package from all high impact shotguns. This was a long needed change, the perk itself is flawed.
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Do you have an example of something that was only nerfed/buffed in one game mode rather than both? Outside of the shotgun effectiveness buff in pve, because that can be done without altering stats for just one game mode.
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I am so tired of you bungie phuks messing up the weapons. Taking away perks or just making the perks that I have to do shit to fill in to use bullshit. Any extra ammo perks are basically non working. So why are they on this mutha phukn weapon? Here we go with shotguns again...let me guess it will be nerfed out of usefulness in pve again? Split the two up for phuks sake. Once again No Enemies are complaining about being killed to quick. Or how far a shotgun kills them. Leave pve out of the mutha phukn nerfs. Gosh damn bungie u piss me off to no end with this shit...They won't though.
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Shot package is irrelevant in pve so quit complaining. If you can't kill AI with a shotgun then you suck anyway
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1 ReplyLet's think about this for a second. You want Bungie to make their multiplayer balanced, yet you want your shotgun perks unchanged. That sounds fine and dandy but how do you expect them to have a perk proc in only PvE? And call me crazy but I think you are purposely trying to complain about something because shot package isn't one of those make or break perks on a PvE shotgun. Infact, no viable shogun has shot package anymore (atleast that I've seen).
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Shot Package is a PvP perk, you don't need it to do well in PvE. If you want to complain about something, complain about the [b][i][u]45% PvE damage nerf[/u][/i][/b] that Shotguns got.
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3 Repliesu stop. Moan.in and get in guns nerf u wud.not have that problem u . shot guns shound b able to.one shot u get kill.by shot in crubile so wat u b kill if someone shot one n reel.life at close range with.shotgun wish poeole like.u wud stop moan.in so.gun.u.get are way the were ment to.b it poeple.like u runnumg the game not bunngie because u ask.for guns to.nerf and the listen to.u hate any guns b in.nerf
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I'm glad for the nerf no more tons of people to running around with a ahotgun
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Who the hell used shot package on a pve shotgun... Full auto and final round are the only perks I want on a pve shotgun
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5 RepliesWho wants to use shot package in PVE anyway? - Full auto is a lot better for PVE.
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1 ReplyI'm not sure how they can remove a perk for half the game though. This isn't adjusting damage output or range, that i would think is possible to make changes for just PvP but not something like this.
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5 RepliesShotguns are already dead in pve in my book, this just buried them a foot deeper
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2 RepliesRange on shotguns is not the problem. The no-skill required one-hit kill is. Make shot guns require 2 body shots for a kill or 1 head shot and the problem will be solved. And separate the changes from PvE. Goddammit Bungie!
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1 ReplyPve never asks for a pve nerf but our stuff still gets nerfed in the name of pvp.
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3 RepliesEdited by UsingHarryBongo: 10/9/2015 10:08:39 AMits not even shot package thats the problem anymore, the nerf to shot package was enough but the one to rangefinder wasn't plus they gave everyone who has done the vanguard strikes quest a 300 attack conspiracy theory with rifled barrel (brings range up to higher than felwinters) and range finder, i swear i don't even get killed with felwinters any more and I only use mine to combat the conspiracy theories otherwise I'd much prefer my chaperone edit: they also will never achieve balance becasue there are too many different kinds of weapon and too many archetypes for each weapon class and because there isn't a good range of maps most maps are perfect for shotguns which is why they are used, if every map was like first light then everyone would complain snipers are OP and shotguns take skill
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They do not know how to successfully "load balance" and they will never get it "near-perfect on weapons. The wrong man has the script
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2 RepliesIt's because perks are attached to the guns themselves, not the gamemodes. It's impossible to remove a perk from a gun in PvP but keep it in PvE since it's a property of the weapon.
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They aren't removing it perminitly
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There are better shotgun perks for PvE.
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It's a temporary nerf so they can monitur how shotguns perform without so to better tweak the base stats so when it returns it doesn't make a for an unbalanced weapon.
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I don't see how that effects PvE where shot package is not really needed.
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8 RepliesJust remove weapon perks from crucible and problem solved
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Bungie is trying to prevent the abusing of shotguns before we have to wait another year. It's just a temporary fix until they have a better solution. They want to make the game better AND you little bitc.hes never stop complaining.
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5 RepliesHow are you supposed to take shot package out of pvp but not pve? Plus they said that play tests show it doesn't impact pve playing with this change. And it's only on a hiatus, not gone for good
