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5/12/2009 9:13:40 PM
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Render-to-Video Public Beta

Online and open for beta business. [url=/news/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=RTVPublicBeta] click for full story [/url] edit by Roger: zeroth. I'm comandeering this post to answer any (good) questions that come up. Enjoy, everyone! Q: Can I upgrade from free-DLC-Pro to Beta status? A: Sorry, no. There are too many people in that situation for us to be able to do that and still keep the beta small. Q: When will videos appear on the file search? A: If you filter by "in the last day", you can use it now. Other time periods are on a nightly refresh. Q: Will files already converted into video format be downloadable by other users without charge (provided they have a Bungie Pro Subscription)? A: Yes, at least for now all Beta users can see all other users' videos. We're watching what this does to bandwidth, and we might have to adjust it. Q: Does this only work on PCs? A: The videos are WMV, and Macs can play that format with the right software Q: Can I render six 10-second films for one "minute" of points? A: No, points are used per minute or fractional minute. A 61-second clip is "2 minutes". You will see the point cost before you confirm the purchase. Q: If I delete the base film from my fileshare, will the video get deleted? A: No. Current plan is to keep videos around for a long time regardless. They can still be accessed by search or via the game they relate to. Still, save off your file when you can, since we can't keep all the videos around *forever* Q: How do I report a broken video, such as the end getting chopped off? A: [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=32880830&viewreplies=true]Reply in this thread[/url] Q: If I like to make machinima with lots of multi-angle shots, shouldn't I just get a capture card? A: Probably, yes. Render-to-video is geared toward players who want to highlight gameplay footage that is special to them. Buying a capture card that can encode 720p (or even digital 360p) is expensive and troublesome for the infrequent capture user, and this service is an inexpensive alternative. When final pricing is announced this summer, you can decide if you really plan to produce more footage than this service will give you for the same price. Q: Why is there audio before the action starts moving? A:That's intentional, to make sure the game engine has had a chance to fully load everything. The simulation starts paused, then we start recording, then we yell, "Action!" Similarly, we have the on-screen Spartans hold their pose for an extra second at the end before we stop recording. Q: Why is it that for a few films, the thumbnail black, the film is unseekable, the length reports as 0, and the end is chopped off? A: It was a bug which I think should be fixed as of now (May 13th, 4:33 PM) for all films rendered in the future. I'll keep an eye on it to make sure the problem is gone. Q: Where's the reticule? A: How about that? The game itself doesn't display a reticule for *clips* until you leave and reenter 1st-person camera. We're showing it the same way the game does. We'll dig around and see if we can prepare a fix for the version of the game engine that runs on the Hydra. Q: Can I render other people's videos and vice versa? A: Yes, any film that's shared on bungie.net is fair game for anyone. Q: Why can't you charge by the second rather than rounding to the minute? A: Each clip, no matter how long, takes a certain amount of our machine time as overhead, loading the clip. It's about 30 seconds of wasted time per clip, So your 1-second clip costs you 60 seconds of Points and costs us 31 seconds of machine time. But your 59-second clip costs us 89 seconds of machine time and still costs you 60 seconds of Points. In the end, it comes out even. [Edited on 05.17.2009 7:57 PM PDT by sawnose]

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  • If I delte a file share that has been rendered and then reupload it to another slot will the the video still be rendered in that new slot?

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  • Me Again!! I must say, the quality on the standard version is even incredible! So everyone, unless you're really worried about your video coming out crappy, us the standard render. And, the render time is amazing. It takes like half a second. It's incredible!!! Thx Bungie!!! P.S. I know I asked it in my last post, but I have a good idea for obtaining points; You could hold a contest/tournament and people can obtain points that way. Or, just make a playlist for points. Maybe every 2 or 3 games you win, you get points. Just trying to help :)

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  • your so stupid.im pretty sure bungie isnt hurting for money considering how many games they have made along with all the maps being sold plus the books and soundtracks.paying for this once is reasonable but having to buy points to do it with isnt

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  • are you people really that stupid.if you get bungie pro now you cant use the beta it obviously said people that PAID for bungie pro before the beta will get to use it now.and the bungie points are stupid. you already have to pay for the bungie pro why should you have to pay more to be able to stream videos.it would probably be cheaper to use a capture card

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  • Thank you!

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  • Still in beta? Too bad i'm not one of the chosens...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kalaban 4 does anyone know the name of the map in the slayer video?[/quote] The map is [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=70088290]Nightfall[/url]

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  • anyway we will be able to download videos in quicktime for mac users so we can actually edit with the clips?

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  • GOOD STUFF! Even tho I'm not a BP member, I still it's cool of you guys to give the Beta test to the people who actually will use the service most. Good lookin' out guys and it's yet another sick as shizzy invention from Bungie! Keep up the good work!

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  • This is awesome cant wait for july what a great semi-birthday present bungie lol

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  • does anyone know the name of the map in the slayer video?

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  • So is this basically what Gamevee used to do with their feature (forgot what is was called)before they shut down?

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  • In the news story when you said"...I'm taking about", did you mean talking becuase this would be a fail on your part urk... lol jk But in all seriousness why the hell would you charge money if you are paying for it in bungie pro subscription. I call bull!

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  • As if bungie hadn't given us enough, they just gave us the ability to transfer our videos to our computer without having to purchase the tools and materials necessary for creating a machinima. You don't know how much I've been dying for this, when I read about this upcoming feature I nearly -blam!- myself. I've never appreciated my Bungie Pro subscription more, I've already tried the beta and rendered my [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=78066777]first video[/url] with my 2 free Bungie points. Both the standard def and HD qualities run really smoothly. But I am still confused about the Bungie point distribution. I used one of my 2 points to render my video, but when I checked back two days later, I had 3 points. How does that work? Either way, I'm not complaining. I hate to seem like a suck up, but I thank you Bungie, your fans appreciate it. Also, I feel like a prick, but if you wanna see my video by chance, you can see/download it from my rendered videos here: [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=78066777] Rendered Video - Bring It[/url]

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  • I'll be ready come 7/7. Thanks Bungie!

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  • Not something I would use, but hey, it sure looks cool to me.

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  • Maybe a bug, maybe not... But I use Bumper Jumper, so that means I have to hold "B" to pick up stuff, not "RB" In the video, it says "Hold RB to pick up Plasma Rifle", but if I watch it on my XBOX, it says "B" I thought that was weird...

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  • I want the webteam's babies. Now. <3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

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  • I have to use my old gamertag to use the service unfortunately (so I've linked it to a different username). From the file I tested I haven't got any feedback from the silverlight video because I have yet to download the feature however I've got to say the standard quality is pretty good (from WMV download), certainly similar if not better than YouTube and therefore completely bearable. Any news on when the HD feature will be available for a beta test?

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  • This is -blam!- awesome! Thanks Bungie!!!! I just rendered a [url=http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=58738766]video of my own[/url], and damn, it's fast - it took 1 minute! [Edited on 05.14.2009 5:21 AM PDT]

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  • Just tried it out....awesome work guys. Very easy to use, I like it a lot. Hats off to The Wolf and co.

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  • I like the feature, but you are not getting my money for something like this, that's ridiculous

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  • People... Stuff isn't free. Amazing stuff like this, especially, isn't free. Not free to produce, not free for you. Does it make sense that because a game was delayed for a few months, you shouldn't have to pay for it? Everything has production costs, maintenance costs (the hardware for the rendering is [i]expensive[/i]), etc, and companies can't stay alive by giving everything free. It's an awesome feature, and it's not like Bungie is going to be like 'omg like f1v3 dollar per pointzzz LOL ROFLOWNED', it will be a reasonable and manageable price for everyone. Everything in life isn't free, and unlike what the government wants you to think, if you complain and whine and do nothing enough, people will [i]not[/i] give everything to you for free and bail you out because you're a lazy ass.

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  • very nice...can't wait to try this out!!!

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  • i am not sure who sprang this genious idea but thanks. i wrote bungie bout a month ago about it and lo and behold. thanks shannon nunn

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  • Why is it called "beta"? Doesn't "alpha" come first?

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