Raising the spires is for vog so you are suggesting joining a raid in progress. Not much different from my post about raid matchmaking which just made a lot of butts hurt. I personally joined 2 seperate raid parties and they kicked me out i guess for not knowing what to do. The kicker though is that i was the only one trying to communicate with a headset while everyone else just did their own thing with no communication whatsoever. Im with you on this but it will never work if people dont use headsets. In my opinion you should not even be able to do a raid without a headset because if someone is struggling they should get some pointers or tips from fireteam instead of just being booted from the team. The problem here is communication which nobody wants to do unfortunately. Ive been playing for about a year off and on and ive only heard about 5 or 6 voices and only 1 was helpful and willing to guide me through nightfall. That guy tore it up almost by himself which made me feel bad but he was cool with it, added me as a friend, and dragged me through poe lvl 32 which i could not have done alone. Add me to your frind list on ps3 if thats what you play on and maybe we could help each other out. Hope you have a headset just to make things friendlier and easier.