Seriously i am frustrated at the fact that if i don't have Thorn i am at a huge significant disadvantage. It is beyond irritating to sit there and get 2 shotted by Thorn. I tried asking better players for tips on how to deal with it and all of them told me to just use Thorn. I don't like the mentality of "if you cant beat them join them" plus i am no good with handcannons so i tried my best to stick to what i did well with which was pulse rifles and scout rifles but even then Thorn was Still putting out insane damage at insane ranges that were giving my Mida a run for its money. I can understand being killed by a sniper or a shotgun because if i am killed by those it means i was too close or out in the open and i have no one to blame but my self but Thorn is a handcannon with handcannon damage, Scount Rifles Range, and a damage over time aspect that no other weapon has. Also i know i am not the best at pvp but don't tell me too "Git Gud" because i honestly cant agree with the fact that most thorn players are even good themselves beyond being able to abuse a broken weapon. /vent Excuse my whining its just been frustrating trying to compete in this mode and just getting murdered by an obviously imbalanced weapon. EDIT: I am on Xbox One for those interested in maybe grouping.