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8/26/2015 1:42:40 AM
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A Lesson About Shoulder Charge: Not OP!

SHOULDER CHARGE IS NOT OVERPOWERED!! If you would like to continue on, I will explain why shoulder charge is indeed balanced. It just baffles me that so many ignorant players seem to accuse shoulder charge of being OP; however, in reality, this ability is nowhere near as effective as people make it out to be. Honestly, the controversy over shoulder charge is tiring and unnecessary, and I'm here to tell you why. So, take out your notebooks, and let the lesson begin! First off, I've seen countless posts of players who call for a nerf, and their reasoning is completely absurd. These players make use of a [b]logical fallacy[/b], which is when an established premise or two may be true, but the conclusion drawn from these are far from the truth. An example of this would be: Premise 1: A guy loves carrots. Premise 2: Rabbits love carrots. Conclusion: The guy is a rabbit. See, this conclusion is obviously incorrect, but the premises were true. Now let's equate this to destiny: Premise 1: An opponent is using shoulder charge. Premise 2: The opponent continuously beats me with shoulder charge. Conclusion: Shoulder charge is OP. You see the flawed logic here? Just because someone can beat you with what they are using continuously doesn't mean what he or she is using is OP. It usually means one of two things: 1. You suck 2. Your opponent rocks So just accept the fact that you lost, or DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Don't just keep standing straight up, oblivious to the charging Titan running straight at you! If a Titan has enough time to run at you and get shoulder charge to activate, they flat out beat you. The time to kill for most weapons in destiny is around 3 seconds, and guess how long it takes for shoulder charge to charge up? Around 3 seconds! [quote]But Mr. Guardian, what if a Titan just panic shoulder charges me? That's unfair right?[/quote] Nope, because guess what? Something magical, called a shotgun would have done the same thing! Which brings me to my next point. Shoulder charge is no more effective, if not less effective compared to shotguns, and here's why. A shotgun has about the same range as shoulder charge, but shoulder charge requires 3 seconds of initial sprinting before it can be used. [b]Think about it this way: shoulder charge is like a fusion rifle; it requires a charge up before use, and many times, players will charge a fusion rifle before turning a corner. Similarly, Striker Titans sprint to ready shoulder charge before turning a corner.[/b]When you think of it like a fusion rifle it doesn't seem OP right? Because fusion rifles aren't OP. But people don't see it this way, people don't think of the initial running required to activate shoulder charge. Instead, players just see the OHK and immediately scream OP. So please guardians, quit being ignorant about what actually goes into using shoulder charge. Next time a Titan is spamming shoulder charge on you, think of what I taught you today... Pull out a shotgun! Because 9 times out of 10, a shotgun will beat a shoulder charge! Class dismissed!!

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  • Ive gone alot streaks just by using Mida and SC :/

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  • Nope. Nope. Nope. Too much logic.

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  • I almost never get shoulder charge kills on my Titan. It's an opportunity kill. You gotta get within shotgun range so that has a degree of luck all its own.

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  • The other two classes have blink. Titans don't. Titans have shoulder charge. The other two classes don't. Actually, seems kinda fair.

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      • Yes, because whenever I get killed by shoulder charge I'm usually standing in the middle of an open field and the Titan comes rushing at me and I just stand there. No. The reason Shoulder Charge is "OP" and shotguns are "OP" is because they're close range. The problem with Destiny is that the weapons have long range and we have high mobility, yet the maps are mostly close ranged corridors and small. The problem with many shoulder charge defending idiots is that they think that everyone should be able to see the Titan running for them. Shouldn't everyone see the guardian running at them with a shotgun and kill them before he gets too close? No, that's a stupid argument. Shoulder Charge isn't OP regularly, but neither are shotguns. The maps are broken, that's what. It's because of the broken maps that Shoulder Charge is actually OP and so are shotguns. Maybe if the maps were more like Shores of Time, shoulder charge would be seen for what it is. But sadly, they aren't. Shoulder Charge is and will continue being OP until Bungie makes some larger maps.

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        • You forget about small corridor maps when titans turn corners and just destroy you

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          • Sure, shoulder charge is circumstantial but, in the right circumstance, the victim has no hope of escaping or fighting back. Therefore, I do believe it is OP in that there is no way to counter it if the right circumstances are met. Personally, I believe the best way to balance this is to have a cooldown or even a cooldown for it to do full damage. [spoiler]I can write long-winded opinion posts too.[/spoiler]

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            • Edited by Benzene21: 8/30/2015 1:59:17 AM
              flawed analogy with fusion rifles. if you actually use them, you would know it is not the same at all. you can ready shoulder charge by sprinting, which is not hard, it is not a distraction and doesn't really require a lot of timing. after the charge is ready you can have it ready for a couple of seconds, and as soon as you see someone close enough, the only thing you need to do is a melee attack, which is fast. with fusions you need good timing because you have to charge it [b]continuously[/b]. it is not like the shoulder charge, which gets charged by sprinting and stays like that for a few seconds without you doing anything else other than sprinting.

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              • Disagree, to an extent. if you're great with the increased control skating, you can basically shoulder charge anyone anywhere, and dodge shotguns who try to stop you. It gets to be a little unfair, or at least feels that way when I do it and the guy has no realistic chance of stopping me

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                • A+ for reasoning, Comrade. GuardianXbox is always right! (RIP Boxer). 🐴[spoiler]Tbh this is the best attack on "shoulder charge OP" that I've seen[/spoiler]

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                • I dont understand why people suck so badly and are honeslty just whiney idiots. Shoulder charge is just op as any offensive skill. It takes practice and skill to be used effecrively and can be shut down easily if you just knuckle up.

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                  • Edited by blackclover01: 8/26/2015 4:45:08 AM
                    i main a striker titan and i approve this message

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                  • Edited by choon doonga: 8/26/2015 4:36:18 AM
                    I use it mainly for mobility. I'll kill people around corners or from behind, only if they aren't paying attention. I get shotgunned the majority of the time if I just run around spamming it. Definitely not OP.

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                  • You my friend nailed it!!!

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                  • yea i agree, on the oppenants end, it is well timed and luck sometimes

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                  • lol did you spend all day writing this?

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                    • Edited by NOBLE 7878: 8/26/2015 3:29:41 AM
                      I agree, I was destroying a guy with my shoulder charge and he decided to try it out and got destroyed by eveyone else, shoulder charge requires planning and skill to use effectively, especially since the popularity of shotguns skyrocketed.

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                      I barely even use it to kill, more for transferring my momentum in a different direction

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