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Edited by AnonPig: 8/26/2015 11:09:38 PM
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The Taken King Weapon and Armor Lore Now with AudioVersion

[b]The Chaperone.[/b] As seen from previous footage this weapon had what looked to be the Tex Mechanica insignia. If this is true, and it is made by Tex Mechanica, this paired with the grimoire, we learn the foundry truly had its "Hey-day" during the Dark Ages, but recently has fallen short in comparison to the newer more advanced foundrys with the exception of a few specialty exotics we use today. [b]Telesto[/b] is a moon of Saturn, and is called out as being a Vestige of the Queens Harbingers. As we know the Harbingers are something that destroyed hundreds of thousands if not millions of Eliksni that caused the Reef Wars. Whatever these things were exactly, simply the sight of them was enough to strike fear into the enemy. Being a "Vestige" of it means that it's like a trace of it, a glimplse of its power. This suggests that whatever the Harbingers were, creature or weapon, they harnessed Void Light with massive explosive powers. [b]Alchemist's Raiment[/b] Cry_w of the Collective of Knowledge pointed out a very close relation between Ulan-Tan's Burial Ring and the design on this chest piece. This reinforeces the fact that Ulan-Tan was a Warlock, and also really shows the depth of the character. Ulan-Tan was one of the people who speculated on the nature of the Darkness, he theorized that the Darkness a necessary symmetry to the Traveler in a cosmic balance. In this view, the Traveler's goodness led it to sacrifice for others, and it is up to us to return this goodness by healing the Traveler. He was also the founder, possibly inadvertantly after death, of the faction Symmetry which likely held that ideal strongly. An Alchemist is one who makes one thing from another equal thing (those anime nerds who have watched FMA will know this quite well) which leads me to believe that this was infact the robes of the legendary Ulan-Tan. [b]Empyrean Bellicose[/b] is our new Titan exotic which features some scavenged Golden Age tech. Off from Mars and the floating gardens of Pomona Mons Titans get to experience a similar affect to the Warlocks Angel of Light, this technology clearly the same that kept the gardens afloat. To break down the name directly we get "A warrior of the Heavens" So this helmet is essentially worn by the proud and noble Titans who fight for Light. While the perk may seem sub-par i would like to draw attention to the fact that the Dreadnaught has been hinted at having a lot of platforming puzzles. A Titan already has the highest natural jump, and being able to move laterally without falling at that height, then fall down on it's natural parabolic arc gives the Titans essentially an equivalent to the Hunter's Bones of Eao. I think this will be a fantastic Exotic to own. [b]Sealed Ahamkara Grasps[/b]: This exotic should further confirm that the Voidfang Vestments are actually a piece of Ahamkara armor for the Warlocks "You will dream of teeth and nothing else" The Ahamkara have a strong influence on whoever is holding/wearing the bones, as seen in Ghost Fragment Warlock 2 as well as in theory on Skolas' back. These Ahamkara gloves however have been plated in silver, and it claims that this helps to silence the influence of the Ahamkara. Is it that Ahamkara have been given a similar weakness as common folklore beasts like Werewolves? A weakness to silver? And if so....why reveal this information now? Right when we're introducing a new weapon type: Swords. Or could it be that the Ahamkara have actually inspired this idea? and that, like OoMNagent of the Collective of Knowledge suggests, they are actually mocking us. And this is what I believe to be the more likely. We attempt to silence them by coating it in silver, but it doesn't work at all. [b]Sleeper Simulant[/b] will be our last exotic revealed today, and this one is puzzling. There isn't much to go on here, but what they do tell us is that the subroutine: "Ikleos" has been completed. Now what i can say is that Ikleos was the god and personification of people seen in prophetic dreams. Further he is the son of Hypnos and Pasithea, or Nyx and Erebus... the latter has me curious, but i won't get into that now...possibly for a long time. So what we've learned before about the Sleeper Simulant is that it is clearly an exotic weapon made from Warsat materials, possibly by the Seven Seraphs. Now what do we know about the Warminds exactly? Well we know that one went dormant...and slept for a few centuries...dreaming about how to defeat the Darkness.... Good catch by Architects of the Collective of Knowledge and my personal House of Pigs: That is clearly where it gets it's name. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/149337920/0/0/1]AnonPig's Theories Archived[/url]

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  • Thanks for the credit on the Alchemist's Raiments! Still trying to find them myself. :)

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  • Am I the only one hoping for in the next vex dlc that the vex have revived and genetically engineered a "machine Ahamkara". Would that not be the most badass thing ever

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    • Anons voice 10/10

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      • Look at these three exotics •Pocket Infinity •Ac/d feedback fence •sleeper stimulant All of these exotics have a similar plating and perk icon- Rasputin

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        • I don't think Silver helps stop the hallucinations, because right after it says that is says "Oh bearer mine" so I agree that the Ahemkara are just mocking us

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        • Bump

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        • AnonPig, I consider myself very knowledgeable in terms of Destiny lore. I've been following Destiny intensely for a very, very long time. That said, I recognize that you are far superior than nearly everyone in regards to lore. Which is why I need your help. Can you/have you found [i]any[/i] bits of lore pertaining to the equitable swords (as seen in recent reveals/Twitch streams)? Bungie notes them as a "long lost weapon type," meaning there's at least some backstory there. Undoubtedly we'll find out more with the Eris Morn questline coming with TTK, but for now, if you have found anything, I would love to know. Thanks.

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          • Edited by Gary Number 1: 8/27/2015 12:50:34 AM
            When talking about something I feel that it would be beneficial to show said thing. For example when you talked about Ulan-Tan's burial ring sharing a pattern with the Alchemist's Raiment it would have been nice to see them side by side so we could see for ourselves. Other than that I thought it was quite good.

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            • I wonder how many people here don't know what "Eliksni" is...

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              • I know this isn't an AMA, but do you think that there is a possibility that an Ahamkara has been "Taken?" And do you think Exotic Armour Grimoire would be cool?

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                • Edited by Ockey Chit: 8/26/2015 11:02:50 PM
                  here is the quote from FMA. [i]Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only truth[/i] And here is a quote on the philospher's stone [i]The Philosopher's Stone: those who possess it, no longer bound by the laws of equivalent exchange in alchemy, can gain without sacrifice... create without equal exchange. We searched for it... and we found it[/i]

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                • Reply for later.

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                  • I don't think silver is Ahamkara weakness I mean it does stop their influences but that means that silver just stops them from having power over someone or something so mabye they continue on doing other things

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                  • So does anyone know what's up with the Sleeper Stimulant's emblem that's above the mag? It is the same symbol used for Pocket Infinity's exotic perk, not sure if its a specific foundry or maybe has something to do with the warminds.

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                  • Edited by Wheeze: 8/26/2015 3:01:14 PM
                    Sleeper Stimulant's flavor text says "...MIDNIGHT EXIGENT Status=In Progress." Under Rasputin 3, we find "I am declaring YUGA SUNDOWN effective on receipt... Cancel counter force objectives. Cancel population protection objectives. Format moral structure for MIDNIGHT EXIGENT." "Moral structure?" Reformatting your morals sounds... Disturbing. But yeah, regardless, obviously Sleeper Stimulant has a lot to do with the Warminds.

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                    • Remind me to get back to you about the akharama

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                    • Edited by Lazarus215: 8/26/2015 2:36:11 PM
                      Maybe the sealed grasps quiet the auditory, but enhance visual hallucination but is currently unknown because silver may actually enhance the bones' influence? Edit: enhanced meaning increasing the effect to the point of being unrecognizable because we have never experienced them and the memories of them have been long forgotten

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                      • I doubt that thr Ahamkara have a weakness to silver or a certain type of material. Sure, it might say that the silver in the gloves blocks out hearing hallucinations, but that doesn't block out the Ahamkara's "Oh Bearer Mine." They might be trying to trick us into using swords if they can easily kill people who come close, and I don't think that they really are going to have a weakness to metal. Maybe something like an energy because only warlocks were able to defeat them, but it's just a thought.

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                        • FFS call them fallen.

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                          • Anon, anon, anon... Another hit and a miss.

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                            • Come on Anon you know better then to put space dragons in the same category as werewolves. Think about it, all the past Ahmakara exotics push the guardians to do something like Feed on reality, fill the world with teeth, burn down your enemies, defy the hand you were given. All of these can be seen as a way to usher in the return of the Ahmakara by feeding them, burning down there threats, setting traps for those left unburned, and allowing the guardians to jump as high as a dragon flys. Possibly turning the guardians themselves into a new generation of Ahmakara, and now we have a new set of bones telling the guardians what to do about the nightmares, the nightmares are likely caused by the guardian's own mind fighting back against the draconian influence. I say the silver doesn't weaken the fossils, it brings them closer to life, it makes them stronger.

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                              • For AnonPigs research and anyone who wants to now more about Ahamkara. This is not my work, I don't even have a reddit account. All credit goes to the guy who made this

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                                • Unless you can zoom in/ads while using Hammer of Sol then that That Titan helmet will be useless to me.

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                                • Sliver is their weakness ?

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                                  • These are always so interesting :)

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                                  • Harbinger hint to mass effect Easter egg ?

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