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Edited by Horus: 8/8/2015 8:05:17 AM
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DeeJ explains to IGN why TTK won't let you upgrade your year one legendary gear

Deej talks about why Bungie decided against upgrading year 1 legendary weapons at around 9:15 in the video above. "In The Taken King, we are delivering to the Tower the largest arsenal that this game has ever seen," Deej said when asked about the choice to prohibit upgrading of current legendaries. "That includes Destiny Year 1. New weapons, new Foundries of weapons, Hakke, Omolon, Suros. Customizable, upgradeable... That's the Destiny experience: 'I have a new gun that I'm upgrading, awesome.' It's the act of discovery that makes being a Guardian interesting, and we're leading people down that path again... When you see Oryx, it'll make Crota seem like a distant memory of a fonder time. You're going to need more powerful weapons to meet these rising threats, and that's the experience we wanted to give people in Year 2." But Deej also promised players that their favorite weapons won't become irrelevant after the expansion launches. He said that there are still plenty of situations where they can be used effectively. "If you love your Fatebringer, there are still a lot of great places you can use it," he stated. "In normalized Crucible [competitive multiplayer], where power is on an equal playing field, your Fatebringer is still going to be a force to be reckoned with. There are still patrols where it'll be relevant, obviously when you go back to play the old raids, it'll be time to dust off that old Vision of Confluence... There's always a perfect tool for any job in Destiny. So those Year 1 weapons are absolutely going to be relevant, don't dismantle them, there's still going to be a time when you need to use them." http://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-destiny-the-taken-king-wont-let-you-upgrade-yo/1100-6429577/

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  • That is a very political way for bungie to say they messed up at the very beginning and made weapons that were far too powerful.

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  • My only question is, the old raids are gettin harder and probably will match tge lvl 40 but the guns and armor of the raid are year one what will happen to them

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  • I don't mind more and stronger gear, that's how its suppose to work. I do mind however, completely making weapons and armor over the past year unobtainable and modifying a good majority of them and their perks for worse.

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  • All I hear in the video is deej screaming damage control...DAMAGE CONTROL, I wish I never told them their year 1 equipment was not going to be obsolete... I don't here any damage control here... https://youtu.be/jXU5k4U8x20

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    • These guys have some terrible PR and design choices. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/144454483/0/0 Calling all U.S. and non-U.S. players who disagree with non-U.S. TTK pricing. Please bump and.maybe we'll get some answers.

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      • Our fearless community manager has some pretty awesome stats; clearly he knows what he is talking about. #eyeroll [quote][u][b]Warlock[/b][/u] Level: [b]32[/b] Light: [b]143[/b] Grimoire: [b]2265[/b][/quote][b]mmhmm[/b] [quote]WEEKLY HEROIC STRIKE Venus Jan 12 at 11:49:48 PM[/quote][b]First game played.[/b] [quote]ALL TIME 2d 22h 8m 255 Games[/quote][b]Total Time spent in game.[/b] [quote]CROTA’S END Earth's Moon Jul 26 at 9:58:54 PM[/quote][b]Last game played.[/b] Perhaps if he actually loved the game and played it as much as we do, he wouldn't make so many blatantly awful and incorrect statements. Perhaps if he knew what he was talking about, we'd have a little more faith in the direction that destiny seems to be going.

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      • This game has turned into such a freaking mess.

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        • Didnt he say they wanted to more respectful of players time? Reward them for their time? I guess they mean from now on...after we disrespect all the veterans time.

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          • TL/DNR summary: "Actual content can be completed in 40 hours with max level weapons, so we need to make sure players grind for weapon upgrades / mats etc for 400 hours in order to justify the price tag / keep em around longer"

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            • "You're going to need more powerful weapons" (Nerfs Gjallarhorn and Ice Breaker and Black Hammer needlessly) Bungie is in full blown damage control. Don't waste anymore time, folks.

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              • Anyone else missing the good old days when devs were actually gamers?

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                • What's the point of having year 2 weapon if they allowed all of you crybabies to upgrade year 1 weapons then ?? Bum.

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                  • Bungie needs to play borderlands, that game franchise has some mutha phukin guns.

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                    • Edited by Optic: 9/13/2015 6:14:02 PM
                      Deej: "I miss my shadow price and my suros regime". your the one who nerfed autorifles -_-

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                      • You know he's full of shit and just talking right

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                      • He is the most deluded to assume he knows what Guardians want. Had it been a war he would have been mutinied. What an idiot.

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                      • Memory of a fonder time... For sure.

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                      • Omg I keep coming back hoping to read some bit of news that will convince me to come back. Cause withdrawals are hitting but guess I was right to cancel preorder

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                      • Fatebringer is actually beast in crucible.

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                        • You can still bring Fatebringer into crucible where it will be a force to be reckoned with... Deej so doesn't play Destiny ;-)

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                        • Necrobump. I like the part where deej tells us there is tons of awesome new weapons, then proceeds to tell us we can dust off our raid gear to do old raids. Excuse me bruh? Why would I do that if I have all these awesome new weapons I could use instead? That's literally the same thing as telling us to go run restoration lvl2 if we wanna have fun with our prized khvostov.

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                        • Hi guardians! I recently saw this post. And know how Bungie works, they probably won't read it and it will go away. So I'm going to paste it in a new post. If you support the cause, copy this post and paste it in to one of your own!!! So that eventually (and hopeful) Bungie see's this. Well here it is! :) So, Destiny is almost a year old. I started playing with the Beta, left after TDB was released, and recently returned. I am primarily a PVE player, but will take a turn in the crucible for a change of pace. I, like a lot of people, feel that Destiny year one has been a beta test. If Destiny year two is better that year one, I may be able to get over it. The games shooting mechanics are still a lot of fun. Everything else is pretty much a hot mess. From lack of story, multiple currencies, lifeless environments, heavy grind, confusing advancement requirements, to all the issues with PVP, Destiny has not been a user friendly product. I would like to see more done to compensate year one players. I want to know that Bungie appreciates my business, and all the work we have done testing Destiny. Right now I am not feeling the love from Bungie. I am for ascension of legendary gear. I do not accept the argument of "this is an MMO, so get used to it". I find that to be a defeatist statement. The entire point of giving feedback is to make the game better. Just because something works one way in other games does not mean that is the best way to go forward with Destiny. I would encourage Bungie to find a better way . Do I want to use the same gun for 10 years? Maybe, I don't know. I do know that I want the option to use my legendary gear, and be effective, if that is how I want to play the game. I would like to see bosses that are more than bullet sponges. Make encounters that a memorable and interesting. I want missions that more than my guardian fighting bad guys while Ghost does the work that moves the story forward. I would like to see more environments. There has to be more to earth than Russia and The City. Heck, I would like to explore the city, and see what my character is fighting for. Some in game method of building a strike team for Raids and other end game content. It makes no sense that I have to use fan sites to find a team. The game should make it possible to put a team together for any activity I want to participate in. More customization options for characters, please. Alright, this post is long enough as it is. Hope that Destiny is better in year 2. Have a great time out there guardians! And be sure to bump! :D

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                          • Edited by A485258: 8/8/2015 2:53:35 AM
                            If they could make new guns that were better, we'd use them. Seems like they can't so their forcing us to give up the old ones.

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                            • Yeah, Deej has told us about our options for armor and weapons before, even their games site: Lies! [url]https://www.destinythegame.com/game[/url] [quote]Create Your Legend Personalize and upgrade [u]every aspect[/u] of how you look and fight with a nearly limitless combination of armor, weapons, and visual customizations. Take your upgraded character into every mode, including campaign, cooperative, social, public, and competitive multiplayer.[/quote] Or how about how they imply about things in HoW: [url]https://www.bungie.net/en/pub/houseofwolves[/url] the weapons being better: [quote]New weapons, armor, and gear to increase your Guardian’s power, including Fallen and Osiris-themed collections earned as top-tier rewards in new activities.[/quote] Or even something that we were told was massive, when it was really a fairly small "new area" [quote]A massive Fallen ketch has been spotted over the Moon, and a crew of Fallen cutthroats, led by the ruthless mercenary, Taniks, the Scarred, seeks to plunder the Hive’s darkest secrets.[/quote] While the graphics were good, and the fight can be a little difficult, but really would you call Taniks ketch "massive?" Especially what you get to see and do after after you left the hellmouth part of the fight!

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                            • I like the way they are heading with the leveling up, its how it should of been. As far as old weapons, its like getting a new bike. Soon ill forget about the old and on with the new.

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                              • Hey Deej, you know what else is only relevant in patrols and normalized Crucible [competitive multiplayer]? The Khvostov. Let that sink in as you deny players to upgrade Year One gear. *mic drop*

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