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Edited by ReforgeTV: 7/10/2015 2:59:49 AM
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Destiny vs Witcher 3

Why am I comparing Destiny to Witcher 3? My way of celebrating Bungie day (a day late)... It's time to blame Activision :) EDIT : So a lot of people are calling me an "idiot" and "retarded" and using "click bait" after admitting they didn't watch the video. Thanks to those in the community who actually watched it and have taken the time to defend me. I never intended this to be click bait or something that would anger so many people. It's just a simple comparison between how the games were published and how I think that affected the content size and DLC practices.

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  • So I'll say straight up that I can't watch the video (don't ask). However I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I prefer the witcher 3. Whilst the gameplay isn't revolutionary ( though I have spent hours levelling and enjoying fighting monsters as a witcher, more so than I have as a guardian) I can say however that the story of the witcher 3, and all the series for that matter, owing to its detailed characters, plot devices, setting and embedded lore. The main protagonist( Geralt of Rivia) is not a God who can take on an assortment of time traveling space robots and mind controlling aliens.(though we do have some really tall teleporting elves who like ice but hate ice, it makes sense if you've played the game.) hell they even involve politics in the mix. While one could argue that destiny has lots of lore hidden in the grimoire cards...that's just not good enough. The witcher series has bounds of lore all over the landscape, as well as the book series it's based of which offers even more. Destiny on the other hand has a terrible main story (though ttk is much better) and lore hidden, not Within in game item descriptions and character dialogue like dark souls, but rather on an internet based unlock able database. While I have few qualms with this setup the big thing about it is that it's not available in game. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for databases the help enlighten you to the story and lore of the world you play in, as long as it's in game. Take the bestiary for example, a database of information on monsters (and another section for characters) you've met or fought that offers information and descriptions as well as quotes on them AND tips for fighting them rather than just short cards with snippets of info that rather than taking some thought to understand like dark souls are instead spread thinly amongst numerous cards. Rather than developing anything other than cliche showdowns involving people like "Dredgen Yor" and "Shin Malphur" they choose to create a story than throw it in the trash and make an new one a year before release. Where witcher involves a myriad of monsters and magic that are based and named after creatures from European mythology, destiny creates an assortment of aliens, robots, and "Ahamkara" the likes of which you never encounter! Many of which are different sizes for no apparent reason( at least I think they don't explain why Kelly's are bigger than vandals or Valus ma'aul is bigger than a centurion.) I can say that I honestly love Destiny and its lore but I love witcher 3 just that little bit more. Touching the gameplay side however is really more of a preference thing. If our like PvE more witcher 3 is better if you like broken PvP more play destiny. The broken thing was a joke but destiny pvp is pretty shity in comparison owing largely to its weak assortment of enemies, pvp based combat, assortment of cheeses, and apparent lack of difficulty outside of 6 player puzzle like fights. Honestly the hardest thing I've found outside of the pvp is trying to do the kf jumping puzzle for the first time with a relatively speaking low agility hunter using better control. TLDR Destinys story is hidden behind a fairly weak assortment of cards and has relatively bad pve. It isn't interesting like dark souls, just boring to look for. Nearly the opposite of witcher. Destiny PvP. Witcher PvE and story. I choose witcher.

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  • Great video Lono People should watch the video before dropping negative comments. the game styles maybe different (3rd person vs FPS) but your points about the publishers, lore, cut scenes and size of the games are excellent points. I hope someday Bungie can self publish and cut the link to activision. I think Destiny still has such potential but it needs to escape from activision, and the hard part will be waiting before buying the future dlc its certainly addictive to get that loot and new subclasses

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    • Edited by Simmer: 7/11/2015 1:18:54 PM
      Thank you Lono..... This was a great comparison. Self publishing allows for much more freedom with developing a game. Unfortunately for us, we have to wait for the Bungie / Activision contract to run its course before Bungie can actually attempt to self publish. Destiny is running the typical course of an Activision game. And Bungie knew what they were getting into when signing the contract with Activision. And Activision's yearly pricing guideline will continue to upset a lot of Bungie faithful. But there may be hope around the corner. Microsoft knows Halo 4 was a complete disaster compared to the previous IPs. So what do they do? They offer free DLCs with Halo 5 and also guarantee that Halo 5 will be on its own dedicated server for its multiplayer. Activision may not follow the exact blueprint for The Taken King if it takes a flop, but expect a lot of changes if sales don't meet expectations.

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      • I really don't see how people are calling this click bait. Did they expect a side by side comparison of the two games and their lore or mechanics and game play? It's a comparison of each games publishing, business practices and the way they handle things such as Dlc's. Good vid Lono.

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        • 3rd person action RPG vs 1st person shooter action game that desperately wants to be an MMO and sucks at it.

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        • Simply put, read the contract between Bungie and Activision Activision sets pricing, availability and distribution. Bungie owns the ip. Game stripped down and sold in peices = activision TTK price point = activision Poor delivery of lore = bungie broken game mechanics = bungie Can go on and on...

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          • I don't really see how the two games are comparable to begin with...

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          • Agar.io>destiny

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            • This is asinine. I won't even go as far as defending one game over the other. I stayed and watched this mock up of a comparison/analysis of a rant and took away nothing from it. Honestly here is a weird idea. Bungie worked on a linear FPS for years before Destiny's development. They began this product as an independent studio and sought help from Activision after realizing their ideas were too ambitious for their limited team. This is all over their first interviews after they finished Halo Reach. Sure get mad at the big bad publisher for expecting good things from a successful studio but its not unreasonable or unfathomable that Bungie shot for the stars and couldn't get there. It's absolutely possible that Bungie over analyzed their market and aimed too far for something that they couldn't reach. In a way I feel like Destiny is a precursor for what could be. Remember Bungie without Activision has limited experience in the development of rpgs. The developers that made Witcher 3 are quite experienced. I don't think Bungie is an awful studio for trying something new and not meeting expectations. You're comparing apples to oranges in the following sense. Imagine that you are as you are in real life. A YouTuber. Imagine I am a big time movie director. You decide to create this new space epic trilogy. You are funded by people like Disney and 20th century fox etc. I am not. You create an experience that everyone can see potential in but falls short. I still have experience under my belt in the way of understanding what people want from films. What the -blam!- do you have? Some YouTube analytics and straw poll data telling you that people behave in x or y ways when you show them a or b. The reality is that you won't understand what it really takes to create a great experience in that field without trial and error. There is something called humanity and the consistency of this entity wavers back and forth constantly. No data you can gather will ever be able to change that. I feel like Bungie understands all of this and is trying to some degree to make up for what they've felt they failed at.

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              • Regardless how different they are...the witcher 3 is a far better game. It reviewed well, the fans love it, so its pretty much fact its better than destiny... Anyone that says other wise doesnt know what theyre talking about it. Ps. I still like destiny though :p

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                • I play both and enjoy both

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                  • You look beautiful today

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                  • You're making people hate the Witcher. Get out. You evil monster.

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                    • Your video is pointless. You can't compare a master piece rpg. To a shooter made by bungie. The witcher is huge, has actual side quests and a better in game story. Destiny has a OK in game story. The Lore Is amazing and is the reason I'm playing destiny along side the Witcher.

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                      • Witcher isn't multiplayer and all those "free dlcs" are cut content.

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                        • Man I love the Witcher [spoiler]Triss ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [/spoiler]

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                          • Great video

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                          • Skyrim>Witcher

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                            • hahahaha. I found this forum thread right above the forum thread titled "What's the most noobiest thing you've heard in Destiny". ' And boom, you answered that one for me.

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                            • I love everything about the witcher except the gameplay. I think this is the only game I would enjoy watching someone else play. I know it doesn't make sense but f8ck it.

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                            • Ciri Dies

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                              • I made a similar thread with destiny vs borderlands [spoiler]I can safely say borderlands won[/spoiler]

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                                • Lono you should know better how toxic this community is haha. How dare you try to impart your opinion haha

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                                • So how is there so many people missing the point of the vid? Did they watch it on mute and just read the title? I'm confused by the confusion.

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                                  • Well, not surprising about 90% of those quickly disagreeing and insulting me openly admit to not watching the video. The vid and this thread were a bit of an experiment. You passed with flying fanboy colors.

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                                    • Edited by bilbo t baginzz: 7/10/2015 1:31:20 AM
                                      Comparing a game which is based around a 100% online multiplayer game style to a game which is based around a 100% solo offline story base game... k. and no i didnt watch the video as its just click bait. [spoiler]Gr8 b8 m8[/spoiler]

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