It's really impossible for bungie to ignore this much longer. These two guns are far from balanced. And, they really need a fix. This is unacceptable, that bungie just stands by while these guns are completely ignored for being so bad. What I suggest, is that bungie increases not only thorn and TLW's impact by 50%, but all hand cannons deserve such a buff. Let's face it, these hand cannons are an unappreciated class of weapons. But, with some support, we can get them all buffed, and restore balance to destiny PVP. Bump if you agree that thorn and TLW need fixing!