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6/30/2015 10:02:08 PM
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Let the Thorn Banner comence!!

Yes people it's that time again to get out the only weapon that matters in PvP and kick ass on whoever doesn't have it. I have it so I will not be covered in the salt, but for you poor saps with no Thorn, m64, party crasher, felwinters, or other OP weapons I want you to know that you should stay out. By the way I do have m64 with shot package field choke, smallbore, and army of one :) Welcome to Thorn Banner!!!!

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  • Actually I have noticed people using the messager much more then thorn. Been running into full teams using it. The only thing I have noticed is a huge increase in blink shotgun. And with the horrible lag this Iron banner it is truly vexing

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    • Thorn? M64? Nah. I think I'll stick to my Red Death, or six Dreg Pride depending on the map, Wolfborne Oath/Preydeaths revenge, depending on the map, and Chain of Orbiks Fell.

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    • While I have Thorn and feel forced to use it in Trials.... This Iron Banner I won't touch this fvcking OP shit-gun... It seems everyone uses it, as of now it's the ultimate crutch for a lot of people. Everytime I played a few round with it and go back to Hawkmoon I find myself being unable to hit headshots for a while and realize how high the aim assistance for Thorn is. It really is Crucible-Easymode. This Iron Banner I'll play with Timepiece/Super Pox and will use the lord of wolves a lot, this thing is fun... :-)

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      • I decided to sit this one out after last month's iron-thorn lag fest

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      • Edited by Bluefoxx3: 7/1/2015 8:57:11 PM
        If your having trouble completing the Iron Wrath Bounty, then most players would be using Thorn for the assisted kills. I have to because of how laggy the game has been, after I finish that bounty I just switch to something else, that's what Thorn is useful for me at least. Rarely use it other than to complete that specific bounty.

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      • Scout Rifle is the way to go if you want to remain competitive without using Thorn, The Last Word, or Red Death. Enough range and impact to knock 'em down from across the map, with the benefit of a faster rate of fire. My personal favorite: One/One Synesthete (Warlock) –Full Auto –Small Bore –Crowd Control It's equally effective against Hand Cannons, Shotguns, and Sniper Rifles on pretty much every map. Surprisingly, fusion rifles have been my biggest competitors, simply because they charge faster than I can kill within their ideal range. Otherwise, Iron Banner's been pretty straightforward.

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        • I have no problem with Thorn but when 4+ members of a team have it it's just ridiculous. And when I kill a Thorn user the lingering damage always ends up killing me.

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        • The real problem here is that we have 4 primary weapons that kill way too fast and at least one perk that makes both shotguns and snipers way too powerful. The Last Word, The Messenger, Red Death, and Thorn all kill way too fast. Range finder and Shot Package make shotguns way too powerful - killing with one shot from 20 yards is unacceptable. Final Round on Sniper Rifles creates a horrible exploit - you should never get a one-shot kill that isn't a headshot with a sniper rifle. [b]Solution? - [/b]Decrease The Last Words damage (about 25%), decrease The Messengers damage (by about 10-15%), decrease Red Deaths damage (by about 10-15%) and remove the ability to regain your health from a kill (in Crucible ONLY!), decrease Thorns damage (by about 15%) and remove the ability to do damage over time (in Crucible ONLY!), reduce shotgun range (by at least 50%), and completely remove the ability for snipers with Final Round to have any extra damage on the final round (in Crucible ONLY!). I think these changes would be fair because good players would still be able to get kills with the weapons, but noobs who were only using them for easy kills would probably start using something else because they just don't have the skill to make them OP anymore. I also think Blink should have a cooldown (say about 5 seconds) because watching a noob blink all over the map just to get free shotgun kills is a total joke!

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          • I barely saw any tonight. Now if you'd said lag banner, I'd agree.

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          • I only got people with failwinter and Mytoclast

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          • Seriously Whi dosnt Have thorn at this point i played iron banner to rank 3 last Night and Every Single Team had atleast 4 thorns and the ones who were not using it were just using TLW or hawkmoon iron banner isnt even fun anymore nor does it even take the slightest bit of skill to win

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          • The roses can have their fun, they'll soon realize that it's actually the Iron Suros.

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          • Typical Iron Banner match plays out thusly: Cap first point; run to second; killed by Thorn in two shots; shoot another with Red Death five times with no kill; killed by Thorn in two shots; move to flag; shoot enemy four times; one hit kill with shotgun with one of three shotgun types; attack enemy with fist of havoc; enemy walks or jumps to safety at last possible second; one hit kill with shotgun; heavy ammo available, collect, killed instantly/fire rocket into group of enemies, one kill if lucky; enemy fires rocket nowhere near, kills you; enemy survives melee, trades kill during delay; enemy one shots with shotgun from thirty feet; two hit kill with Red Death; warlock gains impenetrable shield; etc.

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            • it shouldnt do this

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              • It hasn't been that bad.

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              • You mean the iron banana

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              • You mean shotgun banner? I've seen Red Death more than Thorn. But most of the time I get killed with a shotgun with insane range on it.

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              • After dealing with thorn, shotguns, lag and the game just cutting out altogether due to the servers..my destiny game is about to become a frisbee out the window

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              • My solution is the Hawkmoon

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              • It's not that bad, more red death then thorn

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              • Thorn was my first exotic what if i refuse to use it?

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              • the thorn lag banner you mean

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              • I didn't really see Thorn all that much today.

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                • Uhm yeah the iron banner is the battle CHAmPIOnS!!!! So op weapons can be expected

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