surely someone has made this post before but im new... PVP games with radar = person with biggest gun dominates. PVP games without radar = people with reaction time and skill dominate. Pros for radar - Preventing campers Cons for radar- Everything except preventing campers. Basically not bothering playing PVP because shotgun jumpers/exotic hand cannon crusaders/mythoclast mongrels and the Lag from Australian internet is balls. #yesiusethelastwordnowanditslaysbuteh Just sucks for anyone on lower levels without exotics. I know destiny wants it to be different to other pvp shooter games but atleast make the radar available after a killstreak or something? #inb4thisguysucksatpvp #hisKDRisrubbish etc. Not making excuses. Its just not fun. Feels like there's limited ways you can play well in the crucible. Its getting old... end rant.