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#Septagon

12/2/2008 11:06:02 AM
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Improving The 7th Column (Group Tags)

[quote][b]INTRODUCTION:[/b][/quote]I was working on a group archive for the past few months, which would serve as a more enhanced search feature for the community. After hours and hours of work, I decided to give up; it was pointless. I was playing around with the group finder for about two hours and came up with an awesome idea... group tags. I experimented by implementing a tagging system and it's potential is unbelievable. The only catch is that I need the help of all chapter founders for this to work. [i]Note: There will obviously be users who abuse this tagging system, so your searches are never guaranteed to be completely accurate. The more group founders participate in this project, the better the search feature will become.[/i] [quote][b]HOW YOU CAN HELP:[/b][/quote][b]1.[/b] From your group homepage, select Group Settings. [b]2.[/b] Scroll down until you see [url=http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/the_bungie_community/GroupTags01.jpg]this[/url]. [b]3.[/b] For the category [b]Group HQ City[/b], you may put the city your group is headquartered in. (Please note that a comma will automatically be displayed after this entry in the group search feature.) [b]4.[/b] For the category [b]Group HQ State or Province[/b], copy the text in the space below and paste it in the corresponding field. None | Tags: [i](Please note that if you put text in Group HQ City, you should put a State, Province, Country, and/or Zip Code in replace of the word "None")[/i] [url=http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/the_bungie_community/GroupTags02.jpg][Example 1][/url] [url=http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/the_bungie_community/GroupTags03.jpg][Example 2][/url] [b]5.[/b] For the category [b]Group HQ Country[/b], you are going to input the tags. Copy the text in the space below and paste it in the correspond field. [a] [restricted] [tag1] [tag2] [tag3] [i](The first tag should be changed to the first letter of your group name. The second tag is the group membership, which is either [open] or [restricted]. You may remove the remaining tags or add more, but they should describe your group. A tag should not include more than one word and should not include numbers, symbols, or other characters. Make sure there is one space between each tag and make sure each tag is enclosed in brackets. I would suggest looking at the tags provided below for ideas; this will help prevent having similar tags with the same meaning)[/i] [url=http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/the_bungie_community/GroupTags04.jpg][Example][/url] [b]6.[/b] For the category [b]Group HQ Postal/Zip Code[/b], input the month and year your group was founded. Use the following format. [mm/yyyy] [i](This format was chosen for a reason; don't put the exact date or any other format. Why not just "mm/yy"? This is because if a user searches 08 for the year, they will also get search results from groups created in August of any year.)[/i] [url=http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/the_bungie_community/GroupTags05.jpg][Example][/url] [b]7.[/b] Select "[url=http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/the_bungie_community/GroupTags06.jpg]Save Changes[/url]", then go to [url=/Community/GroupSearch.aspx]Group Finder[/url], and make sure the formatting looks like [url=http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/the_bungie_community/GroupTags07.jpg]this[/url]. [quote][b]HOW YOU CAN SEARCH:[/b][/quote]Group Search has now been taken to a whole new level. I'm going to go through some of the different ways you can search with this tagging system. [b]By Date Founded:[/b] The tag chapter founders put into the Postal/Zip Code section is what makes Group Search way more advanced. In the category "Zip/Postal Code:", input a month [b][mm/2[/b], a year [b]yyyy][/b], or both [b][mm/yyyy][/b]. You can then sort the groups alphabetically, by creation date, by member count, by founder name, or by location (searching by tag is shown below). [b]By First Letter:[/b] The Group Name allows you to search for a specific group, however, you must enter at least three characters. With the first tag, you can now search for groups by their first letter. In the category "Country:", input [a] or whatever letter you want to browse groups by. Sorting by group name will list all of the groups starting with the letter you selected and put them in alphabetical order. With the other options, you can search groups starting with whatever letter and sort them by creation date, member count, founder name, or location. [b]By Group Membership:[/b] The second tag founders are supposed to put is whether their group is [open] or [restricted]. In the category "Country:", input [open] or [restricted]. You can then sort by group name, creation date, member count, founder name, or location. If you want to narrow your results even more, use the date founded tag as well. [b]By Name Tag:[/b] If you want to search by named tags that describe groups, simply input a word into the category "Country:" and select one of the sort options. If you want to narrow your results even more, use the date founded tag as well. If you are unsure of what to search, take a look at some of the suggestions for group tags below. [quote][b]SUGGESTIONS FOR GROUP TAGS:[/b][/quote]art, anime, campaign, clan, community, elite, entertainment, gaming, forge, fanclub, fun, halo, hardcore, help, marathon, multiplayer, mystery, myth, odst, off-site, off-topic, oni, podcast, politics, private, professional, project(s), recon, recreation, religion, secret, screenshots, support, tactics, undefined, underground, unknown, user-related [i]Still in progress... feel free to suggest group tags that could be used for multiple chapters. PS: Maybe the Greasemonkeys group can create a script for this, which would change Country to Tags and Zip/Postal Code to Month/Year.[/i] [Edited on 12.03.2008 1:00 AM PST]

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  • Great idea!

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  • Awesome idea Cryptic. Sorry it's taken me so long to take a look at this; been crazy busy and I've been trying to catch up with recent events. None the less, if I ever get a chance to bring this up with the groups I'm in, I can assure you I will. It's a great idea, and I hope it doesn't go unnoticed, or at least unused.

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  • Excellent stuff, Cryptic.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HammeredTurnip I'm gonna bring this up in my group right now and it'll probably be implimented as soon as the admins look it over! Fair play thinking this up mate![/quote] PM Froses! lol. [quote]*Hugs OP for his shear brilliance* [/quote]

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  • *Hugs OP for his shear brilliance*

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  • I'm gonna bring this up in my group right now and it'll probably be implimented as soon as the admins look it over! Fair play thinking this up mate!

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  • Still only 16 groups in the system. It's a shame because the system could really promote certain groups, groups that people normally wouldnt search specifically for. [Edited on 12.08.2008 3:49 AM PST]

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  • Wow, nice work. Keep it up.

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  • l will start now....

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Missing Link Can I have a few examples? I'm still confused as to how exactly this is going to work.[/quote] Well when you own a group (you probably know this?) you can put in your location, like country, area code, city, etc. Cryptic is just suggesting that instead of using those slots to actually put your location info down, you put tags, like "machinima" "producers" "marathon", etc. in the space for Country" and date founded (mm/yy) in the area code slot. This way can just search in the Country slot for "machinima producers" and get a list of groups who have put those words for their country. Or if I want to find a group founded, say, last January, I type in "01/08" and get a list of groups who put that for their founded date tag instead of area code. And I'm terribly sorry if I just re-explained something you already understood.

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  • Can I have a few examples? I'm still confused as to how exactly this is going to work. [Edited on 12.05.2008 12:34 AM PST]

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  • I'll likely get around to doing this with my group sometime soon.

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  • Wow. This actually works pretty well. [i]-PPX-[/i]

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  • WOW its brilliant

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Foman123 x I think he was talking about a homogenous mixture of two substances, such as salt water. Which makes perfect sense.[/quote] Science-burned by a lawyer, I'm slipping :< But to clarify, what i meant was this isn't a solution because it doesn't solve any problems. There's no mass of people crying out for an effective method of searching groups; groups are woefully underused. Even if they were still partying like it was 1999, groups that are based around a theme or purpose, rather than simply just being a group of people together because theyre a group of people, never last particularly long. Whatever, though, i'm just moaning. Nice initiative for those willing to implement it and those willing to use it, but i still doubt whether anyone will actually use it. [Edited on 12.03.2008 10:55 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] elmicker [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 That seems like a logical and simple solution....[/quote] It's a simple addition, not a simple solution. Solution implies it solves a problem.[/quote]It depends how you define a problem. If there is no good way of finding a group other than in your spammed inbox or by typing in random names into a search engine then I'd say the group finder is pretty flawed.

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    Neat idea, we need to do everything possible to try and make Chapters in general active again!

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  • I've applied tags to my group. Thanks for the inspiration. I'll help spread the word.

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  • This sounds like a good idea Cryptic. Although, I haven't really founded any big groups so I can't directly help, but I can advertise this.

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  • Nice well thought-out idea! I always seem to expect great things from you =)

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  • I'd be in favor of this idea, since it would help out the chapters/groups on the site, and because it makes sense when you look at the other features that have had tags implemented. Really, I'd just like to see a resurgence of the Chapter/Group feature, but it probably is one of the last things to improve or fix, so it is a long way away.

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  • I've seen this [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=26939048&postRepeater1-p=1#26939438]before[/url]. :P But yes, I'm wholeheartedly in favour of this and think it'd make groups a whole lot more useful and much easier to find. Also, you'd probably be better off getting group founders/admins to set the tags, as opposed to the general population.

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  • I anti-Achronos, approve of this.

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  • This is a great idea. I have added this tag system to the H3A.

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  • Adding this to my Doubles group (222 members, see signature). Thanks man!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] elmicker [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TOM T 117 That seems like a logical and simple solution....[/quote] It's a simple addition, not a simple solution. Solution implies it solves a problem.[/quote]I think he was talking about a homogenous mixture of two substances, such as salt water. Which makes perfect sense.

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