So i was wondering how many of you have been through the 29 struggle, have heard of the loot Cave, spent days doing the Queens bounties for shards, have cheesed atheon, have spent countless hours on YouTube trying to find that hidden chest in vog, have used the vex mythoclast for basically everything. And most importantly, how many of you have calculated how much they need of a resource and farmed it all freaking night long? There are way more things destiny veterans did back in the day. If you know any feel free to comment. And tell me what your favorite was. Do you guys remember the pre dark below days #TheGrindWasReal Edit: People who buy the game now will never get as good as veterans are. They litteraly get gear handed to them. Look at the new Players that are lvl 34 and try raids lmao, they even struggle in VOG, they think crota is harder than VOG. We spent hours, days, weeks, months to get to 30 lmao. I think this struggle is what made US good Do you guys think new Players need the struggle for more experience? Edit 2: thanks for all the replies!!! Edit 3: End game content shouldn't be so easy to get to. Why not make min lvl for vog armor lvl 27, min lvl for the d below armor 30 and min lvl for the h of wolves armor 32 that way all the new Players need to play through all the content to get to level 34. Why not make pvp armor irrelevant in pve. But pve armor still relevant in pvp? These are all theories. Feel free to give your oppinion Edit 4: please don't compare destiny to hardcore mmorpg PC games. Destiny is a dumbed down version for console gamers. You are comparing apples to oranges. Destiny is what it is like it or hate it.