So here we are a whole team (well 5 out of 6 isn't bad) who can kill both raids on normal with a mix of different level primary and secondary characters. I would say our next move is the Vault on HARD MODE!!! (que dramatic music). I think for best results we need to take our best guardians with our best gear which sounds easy enough, but the hard part will be setting the egos aside and actually breaking up the work load the best we can so no one person ends up trying to cover a whole section by themselves and inevitably dieing a horrible death. Also I would like to throw it out there that there is an achievement for making threw a raid with no one on your team diying. I think we are actually capable of pulling this off on Vault normal mode. We flew threw it this past week on turbo, and while we had a few deaths if we played it safe and went slow I think we could pull it off but I suggest we forgo the chest in the gorgon maze and take all the jump pads one at a time to limit confusion in the air. So what do you say roaches? Can we really go without dieing