Simple question:
Have [b][u]you[/u][/b] ever seen a special or heavy [b][u]raid[/u][/b] weapon drop for yourself, or a team mate, when defeating Crota on [b][u]hard[/u][/b] mode?
⚫Regardless of whether normal mode has been skipped or not.
⚫Hearing/reading about it doesn't count.
⚫Exotics do not count.
⚫Extra points for video evidence.
To be clear; the weapons I'm asking about are:
⚫Hunger of Crota (Rocket Launcher)
⚫Song of Ir Yût (Machine Gun)
⚫Light of the Abyss (Fusion Rifle)
⚫Black Hammer (Sniper Rifle)
⚫Swordbreaker (Shotgun)
EDIT: I have all of these weapons already. I'm asking because I have heard conflicting reports and it has made me curious. So far, no definitive proof to support either side.
EDIT 2: Significant number of responses reporting seeing them drop on hard mode. Ratio of responses suggests that it is possible, but rare. Not sure if it has only recently become available or if it has been dropping the whole time.
EDIT 3: Judging by some of the responses, it seems likely that at least half the people voting yes have not read the question correctly. Lots of disagreements. Still no definitive proof.
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Edited by Unknown: 3/16/2015 10:25:47 AMIf they drop on hard mode.. Then I'm 0 / 100.. Because I've never witnessed it. Must be the same idiot that started the exotic rumor about sitting there for 5 minutes to see the rewards screen. (if you seriously believe that, I'm ashamed to admit we like the same video game) you still get the exotic if u go to orbit. This is how Obama got elected 2 terms. America is STUPID!
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lol i got word of crota from normal mode not sure why
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Special & heavy weapons only drop on Normal in CE. Primaries only drop on Hard in CE. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/84739454/0/0/1 http://db.planetdestiny.com/raidloot
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you're one of those guys who dont believe milk is white until you see it??
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There's no debate here. Only primaries drop in hard mode. That's a fact.
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NORMAL IS THE ONLY -blam!-ING WAY TO GET SPECIALS AND HEAVYS. NO OTHER WAY. HARD IS FOR PRIMARIES ONLY. YOU CAN GET ALL ARMOR PIECES IN BOTH NORMAL AND HARD. SPECIAL AND HEAVY WEAPONS ARE NORMAL ONLY. YOU IDIOTS SAYING I'M WRONG, YOU'RE THE -blam!-ING IDIOT.
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94 completions here, I run sword for randoms on hard at least 20 times a week for last 3 weeks, and I have never seen one of those people get a special or heavy raid weapon.
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I never played normal CE before being invited to Hard. 1st Crota drop: Helmet Black Hammer Cryptographic 2nd Crota drop: Helmet Black Hammer Glowhoo
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I got light of the abyss on hm
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I received the Song of Ir Yut on my second completion of Crota HM
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I don't know about other people but my first run I got my second light of the abyss after bridge
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Seen one hoc from the death singer
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[url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/crotaloot#crota]Destiny Tracker[/url] lists the specials and heavies as available on any difficulty. [url=http://db.planetdestiny.com/raidloot]Planet Destiny[/url] lists them as Normal-only. Personal experience and general consensus leads me to believe the latter.
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All the people that believe you can get special and heavy weapons are hard mode are stupid af. Idiots
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Edited by KarmaBullets: 3/16/2015 2:32:11 AMcan some Moderator or Ninja reply to this post so one time forever we don't have to see post like this?
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Here's the thing. If you haven't beaten it on normal, when you go to beat it on hard it sucks up both of the rewards. Which means you can get say sword breaker on Crota if your on hard and haven't beaten normal yet because your getting the hard reward as well as the normal reward. If you don't believe me go run hard without having beaten normal and look at your raid progress in the destiny app. It will take both checkpoints, and pay you twice.
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No, I haven't
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I got black hammer from hard
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Never beat CROTA on hard mode. Or easy mode. I never even beat Atheon. No one ever wants to raid with me, I guess.
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I'm not lucky but I've seen black hammers ghorns truths song if it yut and hunger but all I get every time is a thunder lord or shards
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After 23 Hard Mode completions I have never seen a special or heavy weapon drop for ANYONE.
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i currently have the song of ir yut but i didnt get it from hardmode
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The only weapons that drop from Hard Mode for Crota's End are Primary. Anyone who says otherwise is lying
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The only way it might be possible is if they didn't do normal first and it dropped but even then i dont know if it's possible
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The people that voted yes are either lying, trolling or didn't read the question correctly. [b]It is not possible[/b]
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As far as I have seen, there has been no photo or video proof that was 100% trustworthy and showed a special/heavy raid weapon dropping on Hardmode.