I have got everything from CE on each of my characters so many times it is retarded. Every weapon, multiple crux included, the drop rate is ok and waaaaayyy better than the VoG was/is. Keep running on hard and the mantle will drop.

If you played through VoG, you will know that the gear in CE is already way way way more forgiving. In twenty or so completions in VoG I got 6 arm peices, I got a full set of raid gear in about 3 completions of CE (for two different characters). I think that the CE may have even gone just a touch too far in the other direction. Though VoG becomes difficult based on ability, they have a lot of artificial difficulty spikes in CE.

it's just luck. I leveled a warlock to 20 in a day, had gear to take me to 29 right away. did 1 normal crota got enough to make me 30 did hard mode and got full raid gear in 1 day. 1 normal followed by a hard to finish the set.

Something needs fixing. I have done CE 2x a week every week since release and still don't have HOC or Black Hammer. Got all the hard mode weapons in 2 runs. Have gotten almost 15 Suros and 5 or 6 P&T. Not one HOC or Black hammer.

I don't think rates need to be increased but they need to be "smarter". I have radiant shards and energies for days but am still missing word, the hunter helm, and the machine gun. I have 4 abyss defiants and 4 light of the abyss though.

I've been playing since launch and still don't have praetorian foil, and no I think the drop rates in Crotas End are too generous. That being said the RNG does need an overhaul. I have had 5 Truths and 5 Dragons Breath drop, but not one G-horn and its starting to get irritating.

Nope, the drop rates are pretty good already. It seems to be quite generous at times. Bungie had already increased the drop rate for Crota's End several months. I'm noticing that change and it's been good so far.

I think rng in general needs an overhaul.., like the glowhoo.. If your character already has it it should be eliminated from the loot roll..

I think they are fine even though me and my friends did Crota raid twice and all we got was shards, energy, and I think some other guy got the cryptographic shader.

I'd say make them lower. I liked the vog way. Crota raid spoils us with gear and have to grind for shards, I liked it other way round

CE has a more acceptable drop rate compared to VoG. I still think they should make something like raid coins incase something absolutely refuses to drop for you.

lol you don't even know kid. You don't know bad drop rates until you're 29 and only need one piece of VoG raid gear and playing week after week of raids and never getting it. Experience that and then you may comment on drop rates. Hell, they even upped the drop rates in CE from VoG.

Bungie keeps falling back to "It's RNG, it's RNG, there is nothing we can do, derpa derpa derp." [b]FALSE[/b]. And we know that you know it. We are not stupid, Bungie. [b][u]Crucible Loot Rolls[/u][/b]: If you guys want the good shit, come in last. Drag your team into the shitter. Get atrocious K/D's. I was not the best in PvP, but there were enough games where I came in first, and watch RNGesus give me nothing, or a damn shader I already had, only to see the dude that came in dead last with a 0.1 K/D snag a gally. After watching exotics practically thrown at shit players, I decided to throw myself to the wolves. After 3 rounds in Control with an absolutely atrocious K/D, I got two legendary engrams and a Hard Light. I shit you not: be trash, and get gold. it is stupid as hell. [b][u]Strike (including Nightfall) Loot Rolls[/u][/b]: Another game mode where playing horribly nets you great stuff. I put this one to the test this past week - went afk while two buds finished the fight for me. My other two toons pulled their weight and got garbage. My last toon barely did shit, and got a Thunderlord. [b][u]Raids[/u][/b]: You want to hear something stupid? My crew dragged my level 28 Titan through CE on normal. When we got to Ir Yut I could do [b][u]NOTHING[/u][/b] - all my bullet hits said "[i]IMMUNE[/i]". I was completely useless in every sense of the word. They beat Ir Yut, and I got a Last Word. They beat Crota and I got a Black Hammer, and the helmet. Then we waited to see if we got another exotic roll, and the mission complete screen, and I got a Pat&Tim. [b]I WAS USELESS, AND THE GAME REWARDED ME REPEATEDLY[/b]. If you want the good shit, play as shitty as you possibly can. You will be rewarded greatly, and it is all because Bungie has weigted their RNG system to hand gold to the crappiest of players. Why? So those players, despite not being good, will keep coming back. So they will feel rewarded despite how awful they were. It is literally like elementary school T-Ball: everyone gets a trophy. Now, I am not saying playing well will not net you great stuff: it most certainly will. [b]BUT[/b] it is [u]less likely[/u] that you will get the great stuff, especially if you have someone on your team doing crappy.

Trust me, the CE drop rates are SOOOOO much better than the VoG rates. Granted I still haven't gotten the Titan helm nor the Sword breaker I so dearly want, but I've gotten plenty of other good gear from it!!

I the CE drop rates are ok. I think the fact that you get new armor and can't use it until you've raided several times to get the materials is what sucks.