One thing I noticed while playing Destiny is, people always say "Hunters suck, Hunters are worthless, What's the point of Hunters?!" And I tell them every time "Every class is equally as good as next, that includes subclasses, it just depends on how well one uses them. I understand the difference between each class but sometimes it makes me wonder about some people when they say "Titans and warlocks are the best, hunters are worthless". Sometimes I think, well Titans do have the bubble shield thing along with that hulk smash thing and warlocks do have radiance and that void super. Then again Hunters can unleash so much pain misery it can make people throw their console out the window. I have a few friends who think the way I do (along with many of you and your friends) and they say "Look I agree with you, I've beaten both raids on hard with all 3 classes and I just needed to use a different strategy on each." I have also noticed players who try exclude Hunters all together in raids, strikes, or even party chats (The party chat one was an extreme guy). Anyways the point is, all classes are equally good it just depends on the player, how well he uses that character and his/her abilities with it. I have been kicked multiple times just because I am a Hunter. And, I guess I could admit, those spires on VOG, people told me its impossible for Hunters to do it, I defy that. On Crota's End, at Crota, I was able to climb outta the map all the way back to the bridge. My point is, on this part, Hunters can do anything (not ability-wise) that a Warlock or Titan can do.