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2/28/2015 8:10:45 PM
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Xur, RNG and the science of earning

People say that buying from xur is not earning your item. Those people who say this will commonly say such things as 'I earned my <insert weapon/ armour>. Every body who purchased <insert weapon/ armour> didnt earn it and are scrubs. Let me translate this: [i]i am aware i earned my <insert weapon/ armour> via RNG and no skill was involved but now that others got lucky on xurs RNG, i wont look so special, people wont say 'wow look he has the <insert weapon/ armour>' and i am an insecure person. Im going to the forums to let out some stream and hope i can find others in the same situation as me. But ultimately i know i didnt earn shit because its all RNG [/i] ----- Because ultimately this is what xur is. An RNG. Just as you received yours in a random drop, so did others, only difference is that they used coins to pick from the RNG. You didnt earn <insert weapon/ armour> via xur or by random drops after strikes or chests. Both are RNG. Just as you can get carried in a raid to a chest without shooting and receive <insert weapon/ armour> from xur.. You can also go to xur on a friday and receive <insert weapon/ armour> via his rng. Facts only. I am unbias, both are ultimately RNG
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  • RNG from raids and nightfalls IS earning. You are guaranteed to get a reward from these activities, what it is is irrelevant. If i do the nightfall and get ghorn, i earned it. If i get 6 shards, i earned them.

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    • Deej made a post confirming Xur is true earning.

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    • Edited by ShadowStrider09: 3/2/2015 12:04:36 AM
      I'm here! what's the problem!

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      • How's that Bungie koolaid? Anyone with a brain has known for about 4 months that Xur is not RNG.

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      • update to shotguns, xur sells a shotgun...yup, bungie picks what is sold. too obvious.

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        • Anyone who's played an actual MMO honestly laughs at the idea of people arguing that earning a Gally after going 3-15 in crucible, or opening an exotic chest in VoG is earning anything. Nothing in this game is difficult enough to classify as earning, it's a slot machine. Which honestly is fine, this game is more Diablo then WoW anyways, from a design perspective it doesn't bother me at all, but it's funny seeing people on the forums get pissy about "earning" stuff. (It's also funny when those people call me jealous without looking at my profile)

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          • You flawlessly translate the language of the common forum complainer

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          • This forum is a sewer, but it is nice to see rational thinking hasn't completely abandoned it.

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            • Fake and gay

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              • In all but a select few cases, players receiving exotic items from raids and nightfalls have earned their chance at the exotic roll. Xur shows up weekly without the player needing to do anything. Oh, you want to purchase some of his wares this week? Spend 15 minutes playing the easiest of the endgame content.

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                • You didn't even earn the right to post this, it's completely idiotic and makes no sense.

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                  • If only 80% of Guardians weren't retards, we could all get along and not argue about [b]how[/b] you got an item that literally anyone can randomly get.

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                    • Cracks me up how people say he's not RNG because of the datamining revelation. Yeah, cause the loadouts have to be generated every week for it to be random right? It's not possible that a whole years worth of offerings were generated randomly in advance. Nope, has to be freshly generated every week or GTFO. #sqeakerlogic

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                      • Actually from what I read on reddit the person who data mined the patch and found the information mega man, I was too he found cuts inventory preset, and that he guessed the weapon correctly a few weeks in a row. Skeptical I looked at his topic myself and saw that this week he predicted UR. So he was right, I still believe Xur is not RNG

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                        • Bump... [spoiler]This is exactly what I mean.[/spoiler]

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                        • I got my ghorn today from normal crota. I ran sword. But I know it's not earned. The thorn, earned. Invective, earned. Bad juju, earned. But even then those weapons are lucky in the sense that getting the bounties you need to work through to get them are random drops. I hate people that can't stand not feeling like a snowflake or who have to have a superiority complex because they luckily got a weapon to drop before other people making them lesser players. I have double the play hours of one of my friends and spent roughly 7 hours farming for husk of the pit. Didn't get it. He gets it within 10 minutes of farming. I got it a little while later. But point being we both put in effort toward achieving the same goal. I put in exponentially more work though. Nothing in this game is really earned. It's all mathematically randomized. We are all, as a community, putting in work towards basically the same goals. But who receives the awards for the effort first isn't in order of who worked the hardest. I don't see why we can't just accept that we need each other to progress each other. I don't care how good you are. You wouldn't get to where you are without the people around you.

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                        • You know what's funny about your topic? Xur isn't RNG... His loot table is changed on a weekly basis to keep people playing and giving just enough, but not too much.

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