after playing from the beta to date, it's sad to say Destiny has one of dumbest players I have ever experienced in a "mmo" style game. This whole "I earned __" is complete crap, the randomized loot drop is unbelievably bad and more like a spin the wheel. When people don't do raids with lower levels... Idiots, I just completed Hard Crota with two 30's and four 31's and one 32... And we had to wipe cause the 32 was the one getting caught out.. This whole 32 buzz is killing new players want to play the game. How can they get to 32 if no one does the raids with them? And this serious mood some players (almost all 32s) get into is honestly pathetic.. The game is rated T so the player base is more highly dense in the lower end (15 and below). Which really doesn't mind me, but when they are trying to strategies and command around just because they are at 32 is painstakingly dumb. The raids do not change, you do the same "strategy" for the raid (hard or normal) over and over again yet people take it so serious and bust nuts over it. Overall the game wasn't made to been taken so "serious" and the community should feel bad crediting destiny to all this stuff it doesn't even have. Such as "earning __" and "real skill needed". The proof this game wasn't made to be taken such ways is Bungies responses to the community and bugs? They haven't fixed VoG bugs that have been in the game since it came out... They obviously do not care..