I was inspecting some Crota's End weapons, and saw the name of a perk that disorients Wizards. Lich's Bane. Necromancer's bane sounds like it would be more accurate. Hive are dead, and don't Wizards like Omnigul raise the spawn, raise the dead like a Necromancer? What is a Lich? you may ask. A Lich is a wizard or warlock who has cheated death by turning themselves into an undead abomination. Wizard. Warlock. The hive are already dead though. Why would they seek to cheat death? Maybe a [i]Hive[/i] didn't. Maybe a warlock did. Maybe the hive are dead guardians. What's similar to a Wizard? Warlock. That's obvious. What's similar to an Ogre? Well, it would have to be a Titan. Both can be described as the tanks of their respective biological arsenals, plus Ogres can do a ground pound like Titans. What's similar to a Knight? Hunters. Both of these carry around a blade, made even better by the fact that their weapons are rarely referred to as swords, always blades. Plus, the Mask of the Third Man resembles a Knight's face. What are Acolytes and Thralls? Perhaps the long dead. Perhaps those who lived who are not guardians. Who is Crota? He is a god. A dead god. A dead god looms over the city. Crota is the spirit of the Traveller. Another theory states that the cracked orb behind Crota is a broken Traveller, or from the same species. The fact that the player blows up an orb on The Shrine of Oryx is an effigy of Oryx. However, Crota appears to be a ghost/skeleton mishmash. This indicates that he is dead. The crystal in the summoning room and The awakening is Crota's phylactery. This makes sense, since Crota's soul appears to be summoned from it in The Wakening. Ergo, Crota is the spirit of the Traveller. This theory is backed up in the Warlock 2 Grimoire card. A wizard says to a Warlock that they aren't very different. So Ogres are Thralls. But are Thralls Ogres? It's like sort of like the geometry concept that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. Let's have another parallel. All guardians are human(ish)s. But not all human(ish)s are guardians. The Thralls are people that aren't guardians, the Ogres are those that chose to be Titans, some posthumously. A parallel/comparison for this theory would be the Reaper's indoctrination in Mass Effect. They use humans to make a Reaper, but they aren't humans. It's like how all the Reapers look like Leviathans and are based off/created from Leviathans. Were the Reapers always Leviathans? No. Are they Leviathans now? Sort of. They're twisted versions. Corrupted. The Hive are dead guardians.