[quote] for PvE golden gun could be a bit stronger I think[/quote] The over penetration and circle of life upgrades should help with that. Fire into a hoard of charging PvE bad guys and three shots should be all you need to clear them out if you choose the right elevation and angle to fire from. Besides, who has played the other subclasses yet? Ward of light doesn't kill any enemies, so the argument that it is the Hunter takes the most skill because it has the weakest super in terms of ability to kill enemies starts to look real shaky. If anything, the other subclass of Titan (can't recall whether it's defender or protector) would be the most skillful of the classes (according to that argument) because it could potentially enable everyone in the team to use their super WAY more frequently than they normally would and force the player to rely on their conventional attacks alone to kill the enemies. Point being, no one class is better than the others. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. They have certain synergies with each other that makes them effective as a team (which is sort of the whole point in Destiny, to work as a team). It takes a certain amount of skill, and intelligence, to recognize those synergistic qualities and use them effectively. Bungie allows you to create multiple Guardians (3 to be precise) and use them concurrently (not at the same time, but switching between them). A smart gamer would use this to their advantage and create Guardians from each class to find the type that works best for them (The weaknesses of the gamer is complimented by the strengths of the Guardian subclass and the other way around).