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originally posted in: I like this game a lot but the PVP
7/25/2014 4:59:54 PM
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[This is from my post this morning: The Right Way to Play PvP. Discuss.]This is a matter of opinion. After extensive matches and reading everyone's experiences on the Feedback link, I wanted to point a few things out. Please add your own thoughts. 1. Yes, the vehicles on the moon are OP vs someone who is on foot, but they shouldn't be removed. You have at your disposal your Super, grenades, heavy ammo, or some smart shooting to take them out. If you still don't like em, try driving them yourself more often or just stay inside the facility. 2. So you can't turn on a dime or 360 turn? I've noticed it too. Trust me, I hated it at the start, UNTIL I realized that Bungie would rather you focus on strategy than running and gunning. Once I focused on that I did much better and I adjusted how I stopped to look around. 3. Hate how the radar gives away your position? Yeah, that seemed a little annoying at first. But you can see the enemy too! Rather than lurking around hoping to find someone or being surprised by people who know the map better than you, you'll at least have an opportunity to position yourself, select the best weapon for the environment, and hopefully get excited about having a legitimate duel with someone. 4. Still think the Super's should be removed? No no no. One, they help against vehicles. Two, nothing feels better when you get to use it to clear a room of opponents to keep them from capping a position. It can really help swing the momentum around. Here's a hint: don't hold your Super back! I used to only have 1 Super per match but now I use it at least 3 times a match. And it can be strategic for your teammates by leaving orbs of light so they can use their Supers sooner. 5. "But the Titan's Super can't be aimed" and "it needs crosshairs". Well, it can be aimed...eventually. If you check your Titan's Striker sub class upgrades you'll notice its a future upgrade for when you level up past 8. Crosshairs won't be necessary. Be patient and all will be fine. 6. Still feel that other players' weapons are OP compared to yours? Yup, been there. BUT, after a little research you'll find that the Impact of a weapon plays a larger role in PvP than Attack. You might have a lower level weapon with major Impact that you aren't using yet that can help you! 7. Getting crushed in Iron Banner and don't know why? If you've recently joined the BETA and haven't asked around, realize that Iron Banner takes into account your weapons and gears true numbers and upgrades. Bring your best if you want to last. 8. Bummed you can't talk to anyone? Same here! All we can do now is create a fire team before we enter the Crucible, but make sure you do if you want an extra pair of eyes on the battlefield. Keeping posting to Bungie about adding chat. Until then, keep dancing when you cap your position! So, any thoughts? Agree or disagree?[]
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  • Take out a vehicle with a grenade or a super? Riiight. I'd rather risk throwing those away on a moving armored target than on a potential multi kill. Please play this game before you start giving advice

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  • very much agree, except you forgot the radar bit, you need to crouch to suprise

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  • Agree, to all of this. There is no "right" way to PvP. All of OP's suggestions won't necessarily improve the game, they will only make it into something different. Personally, I love PvP the way it is now. I thought for sure I wouldn't enjoy Destiny PvP half as much as Halo, but the Beta has proved me wrong-- Destiny is now my favorite!

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  • I actually like the pvp... I get that halo vibe again.. The good halo lol halo 3

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  • I do too but it's crushed by a sparking blue smash or a flying ball of purple or a golden sparkling cloak man. And even more crushed by a scorpion tank with the speed of the ghost and the damage of the wraith.

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  • At least you can actually kill hunters while using their supers, I have experience with that.

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  • Warlocks can die to....I have experience with that. lol

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  • Are titans invincible when they use they're supers cuz I can never kill them even with my own super as a warlock

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  • Edited by Nyovix: 8/1/2014 9:32:11 PM
    im a titan player and i love the titan but the super seems way harder to make work because of the close rangeness of it, its the only super you have to put yourself in danger to use, the only way you can get kills if if you jump up on an objective (so youre actually helping instead of kill whoring) or run around a corner, but the enemies already know youre there so they can deal with it from close range (if youre a good player you would know to walk back while fighting someone) plus ive been in many fights where the titan wasted his super on me because i was walking away from him, the edge of the aoe isn't an insta kill, but the warlock and hunter classes are both long range and will -blam!- you up no matter what, tho the hunter is prone to die if you dont know how to use him or you get out gunned. warlock OP as shit, getting shot by two guys? jump, super, both dead, drop recover health, move on...titan, youre getting shot by two guys, you have to run at them and by the time you get there one of the two guys would of walked away and if you could pull off your super to kill one guy youre still getting shot, hunter, the only chance you have is if theres cover, if youre good at shooting or if they are shit a shooting. i want the haters of the titan to stop and take a good long look at the warlock class and realise that its actually him thats OP as shit, (he even has a range melee -_- which doesnt make him lunge)

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  • Titans supers do get pretty powerful in the higher levels but as they were in the beat they were pretty weak so the invulnerability is good for them

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  • Beta*

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  • I agree

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  • I do agree the vehicles need to not spawn right in front of us but rather scattered but supers are just a part of the game it's not like you can't use your super just plan them out with your team to combo them

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  • i agree. i find myself enjoying and doing well in the multiplayer.

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  • You have 39 kills played maybe 4 games and are not even positive...... I'm out.

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  • Best gear!? You mean auto rifle and shotty because literally that's the best anyone can have on those maps

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  • Yes. That's definitely a great combo. That and scout/shotgun.

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  • I agree with pretty much everything you said. Although I think that the Pikes on the moon multiplayer should be a little bit stronger. Not the weapons on it, just the toughness of the vehicle. I always find myself getting last pick of the vehicles once the game starts, and it's always the Pike, and I get destroyed too easily when engaging a group of enemies. Those are just my thoughts.

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  • Edited by Space Wizzy OG: 7/25/2014 9:46:02 PM
    1. Supers are not ready at the beginning, 2 grenades move to slow and have way to long a cool down vehicles are almost never hit by them unless the drivers a scrub, heavy ammo isn't at the beginning. What's "smart shooting" when you are under-fire for all 5 seconds you are alive. So to sum up one. Deal with it. Or accept you will unfairly die to a vehicle in the first 2 minutes. Unless you stay in doors camping 2. I have no idea what you are talking about. If they wanted strategy 2 big things would change. Mics would be required to search in the crucible and radar removed so players would be forced into working together to win. Something destiny doesn't seem to care about. I play on 4 sensitivity again I have no clue what you're saying here. 3. The radar is one of the few things I don't mind. 4. I give up. If nothing feels better than cheaply getting a free multi kill in doors the I don't know what to say to you. How much cooler would out shooting 3 people in a row be while low shields to save the game? Or sniping all 4 players to clutch take a flag? Or your team pushing in the last 30 seconds together as a until on say flag A to win by 100 points? You're a different breed of gamer than me. You're the new breed (puts finger over mouth) there there. There's no hope for you or most of these people. 5. I never complained or cared about this. I also was aware of the skill trees. 6. I've known this as well. Although it's dumb 7. Known this. 8. Only thing we seem to agree on.

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  • Edited by Nick the Slick: 7/25/2014 10:32:38 PM
    You take this way too seriously. So Destiny isn't an arena shooter? It was never advertised as one. I know what you mean about out gunning 3 players by yourself or working as a team to win by 100 points, and supers do get frustrating a lot, but they are a part of Destiny and you have them too. I do agree about heavy ammo being available at the start on vehicle maps, and the kill delays.

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  • Ok, great.

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