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Edited by Mendicant Pax: 7/22/2014 12:21:38 AM
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The Seven Seraphs and the Legendary War Minds (Spoilers Present)

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFynhHBPzm4]BUNKER RAS-2[/url] (This is a terse speculation thread, and I'm certainly still gathering my thoughts, but I thought we could have a dialogue) Here in this video you'll uncover BUNKER RAS-2 and within this bunker is the Seraphim Vault, a Seraphim, as defined; is an angel, a caretaker of God's chair. They are guardians and protectors. Servants of light. A Seraph is a dragon, or serpent, a celestial or heavenly being with six wings and a fiery body that flies around the throne of God, shouting; "holy, holy, holy". In Destiny, there are The Seven Seraphs, and these are War Minds. These seven highly regarded artificial intelligence were crucial to fighting back the Darkness. And, in Destiny, I believe our Guardian will wake them up. Here, in this bunker, I believe houses Rasputin, one of the Seraphs, a War Mind, hidden below the depths of Old Russia. I believe because of the vault being the "Seraphim", and the Bunker as RAS-2. a play on words of "Rasputin". This is further supported by a second War Mind on Mars, named Charlemagne, hidden within the depths of his own Seraphim vault, perhaps a CHAR Bunker. In early Bungie promotional material, there was mention of Charlemagne locked away within a Vault on Mars. I was not able to adequately describe my theory until this beta leak, where the final piece of the puzzle has fallen into place. In the beta, Ghost talks highly of an ancient Golden Age War Mind, Rasputin, that defended humanity against the Darkness. There are seven War Minds, and we know of two, currently. While this video shows an empty, dead bunker, I believe this has been turned off in the beta. While the full campaign will take us through all seven, awakening the War Minds and setting a trap for the Darkness. Now, I know, initially, many will assume "Vault" might be a catch all for raids, given The Vault of Glass, but I am certain what we have here is a crucial piece of the story puzzle, and has revealed a brilliant, biblical depth to Bungie's latest epic. This also reveals an element of the role The Seven Seraphs faction may play in DESTINY, worshipers of the War Minds, devote followers, perhaps. Or a simple group of Guardians protecting the War Minds. Whatever the outcome, I believe the faction will be a defining arc that takes us through Destiny's legendary story. And this journey will take us across the stars, perhaps through seven distinct planets, to awaken each of the War Minds, and save the Traveler. -See You Starside
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  • Ancient bump... If only this game had come to be.....
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  • charlamagne is the last war mind of mars in 2016 expect a new raid a new world and a new battle against the darkness
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    Well done.
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  • Let's bump this, and see people's thoughts post-launch
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    • I agree with a lot of points, but I don't think we'll see all the war minds in one game. I think we'll see the rest of the universe spanning the next few games.
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      • I would, say don't be so quick to trust the warminds. I know this is a different universe and all so this is complete speculation on my part. Every Bungie game that had AI in it also had the common theme of them struggling with going rampant at some point. Cortana and Durendal being two that come to mind. Since the Rasputin has been dormant and cut off for so long, who knows what kind of "mental" state he will be in. Be wary fellow guardians! An unshackled AI can be unpredictable.
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        • Wow. This makes me more eager to play destiny. Nice work uncovering this.
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          • Now here's a question. How many planets/moons are we visiting? There are 9 planets in our solar system plus multiple moons for some. We can exclude going to Uranus, Neptune, Jupiter, and Saturn directly as they are gas planets with little to no chance of solid ground, but there are the moons we can go to (Europa being the only one I can remember the name of right now being an example). now we know of one on earth and mars meaning we are down to 3 places by your count of already used places now it would probably be safe to assume there will be one on the moon giving us 3 "known" bunkers so my question is how many places are we visiting and how many bunkers are there or at the very least relays plus what will be the 7th location if we use all of the "obvious" places (Mercury, Venus, Pluto, Earth, Mars and the Moon)? This is not saying anything you've said is wrong here but just want to hear further speculation on you speculation.
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            • You know this is the highest rated thread on all topics? Congrats.
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              • I dig it! Will favorite for future discussions.
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                • Edited by archienj7: 7/25/2014 10:25:18 PM
                  Well that is what is in the Seraphim Vault. All those big black boxes are: enclosed server racks, you can see the cooling ducts on the sides. I'm guessing Rasputin is the central spire and huge multi sided sphere-ish shape in the central area you can see from the viewing area. I'd say one on each planet at least. Pretty good theory.
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                • If anyone wants to know how to get in just tell me :P
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                  • What about Osiris?
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                    • This does mesh well for the fact that we know Earth, Moon, Mars, Venus, and the Reef are playable spaces plus Mercury and Europa are listed in the grimoire cards amongst the visitable places. There are the seven locations for your Seraphs.
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                    • Dude!... =O
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                    • You stole my thread jerk. I've been writing it and was gonna release it after the beta ends. I'm mad at you.
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                    • Edited by TastyyHunter123: 7/23/2014 4:25:55 PM
                      This post you wrote is very well constructed, and sounds like something that could happen. Great Job! Here is something you might think to add as well, the Seven Seraphs are a faction. In the tower there are 3 factions we can visit, they have ranks that you need to get the weapons and gear. For the Seven seraphs, maybe you unlock weapons and gear by awakening the War Minds. As for where they are located, maybe on the last planet we unlock the Seven Seraphs have created their own tower of some sort and they are all in the back and each War Mind will give you a task and help you unlock gear. I could be wrong on all this, just a little something I thought was possible.
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                    • Btw, as of 3am PST July 23rd, Bungie still has not fixed the terrain clipping/faulty area loading and my friend and I were able to reproduce the glitch and get into the Seraphim Vault.
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                      • As if I'm not looking forward to Destiny enough as it is. Solid theory, have fun in the beta and most of all...bring on September!!! :D
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                      • Best theory I have heard so far! You could be right though considering all the pieces fit together.
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                      • Do you have a PS3 beta code EUROPE
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                      • Love it. I hope this game gets deep, and shows what Bungie was about in the first place. That feeling of overwhelming intrigue. We've needed you, Bungie.
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                      • That would be badass.
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                      • And people have said Destiny's campaign is boring and shallow....
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                      • Edited by Bleak Seraph: 7/22/2014 10:08:37 PM
                        Sorry, did someone say Seraph. And then number eight popped up right into your forums. Lol. Seriously though, very cool.
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                      • It's fun reading this stuff, not having played yet. Wednesday needs to get here sooner!
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