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1/16/2014 8:38:44 PM
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[quote]Wavefront collapse caused by external mechanisms can only be prevented if nothing in existence is external to the system being observed. [/quote]*Wave function collapse Actually it can be prevented by not measuring it with current methods. The only reason it collapses is because we measure it with photons which are on a similar scale so it causes significant disruption to the system when it interacts. If we were to find some way of measuring without messing things up like that then we'd be good, I doubt that will happen though. Point is that it's nothing to do with the fact that an observer exists, more to do with the fact that the only method of observation we have involves knocking the system into disarray.
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  • Woops, I typed it on my phone and thought I had corrected all the autocorrect mistakes. Anyways, I appreciate the input but I was under the impression there was no definite answer as to the source of wave function collapse. Do you have a reference so I can read more about it?

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  • It's hard to find actual references of this sort of thing that are simplified enough to be understandable to someone with little experience in the field but in depth enough to not miss the point. I mainly learned what I currently know by asking physics teachers and my dad who's a university professor about it. I'll be able to learn it in a more in depth when I get further in my physics degree.

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  • I don't need it watered down. I'd rather have something I don't understand than nothing at all.

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  • Any university physics textbook on quantum mechanics really You'll need a lot of background knowledge in maths though

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  • I'm a senior honors engineering student, so it's fine.

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  • Cool beans Well I have this book from Cambridge University called "A Cavendish Quantum Mechanics Primer" that serves as a pretty good intro to the workings of it all.

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