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Edited by ConVeneer: 6/19/2013 3:37:56 AM
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Sony used sly words and twisted info.

Sony just used sly word placement. They addressed issues that uninformed people think they know. $399 for PS4, plus $100 for the eye, plus $5 dollars a month for PSN Plus, aka Xbox Live Gold. Don't need online... but need it to play the game right and correctly. Showing three exclusives and ten other games that are also coming out on the X1, but just said, coming out for PS4. (Meaning it will come out for PS4 and not only PS4). 100 something games coming out for PS4 does not mean exclusive because 96 of those will also come out for X1. Going into the entertainment business too? wheres the crap on that... oh wait X1 already did that, so why complain about it now. Sports? Movies too? No complain here, right. The PS4 would cost $500 dollars with the full bundle, but to cut the cost, they pulled the Eye... Three exclusives (other than indie).... *slow and exaggerated unnecessary clap while laughing hysterically* Won the console war... more like cheated to the finish line. None backwards compatible too. (Edited: I'm using these to counter Sony fan's arguments) http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1g8t5e/lets_clear_up_the_issues_used_games_kinect/ ~Con Veneer The hate on Xbox is a bit ridiculous. The reason it needs to connect to the internet, is so it can maintain a connection to the cloud, to download updates quicker, and to allow greater power behind the console it's self, and to help improve the games. People really are overly picky. Most people have internet now adays, so why is this such a big issue? And you can still lend games to friends, but in a different way. When you install the game into your hard drive, it's added to your digital game library.. Which you can share with up to 10 people. Meaning you can have various people playing your game through the internet, while you're playing it. And you won't have to physically give them the game to play. ~Arrik Vaal http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=syQDMEFq3H4#! Sessler Finally did it. He told all of you Sony blind followers.
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  • Both microsoft and sony twist words. It's for profits.
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  • The Eye is optional. The Kinect is not. Deny it all you want, but that makes a world of difference.
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    • Whatever makes you happy man. Microsoft realized no one liked their plans and has basically reset themselves back to the same standards as PS4 now. All it is now is who prefers what console, company, service, and exclusives. There is no need to bitch and complain what's better or worse now. I think everyone is fed up with constant complaining about the damn consoles.
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    • sad but treu
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    • They eye is 60$ and ps+ is 50$ a year. Kinect is a mandatory 100$ plus 60$ a year. Sony isn't twisting things up, you are.
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    • BLAH blah blah blah blah blah. More nonsense. I'm still buying a ps4. It's AMAZING that you could call other people blind, while you create threads to support a company who gave us the RROD, or who sold us a kinect that didn't work. People are getting a ps4. Please just deal with it.
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      • Do I need the eye
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        • Whatever you need to believe to make purchasing the Xbox One seem like a good decision.
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        • Did I post here already? Meh. Excuse me while I don't get my PS eye and enjoy my $400 console. And free monthly games. With boatloads of discounts. On a console that isn't spying on me.
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          • Lol. OP is pathetic. Eye? Really? That's the best you've got? A staple Playstation ACCESSORY that has been around since the PS2?
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            • The eye is optional on the PS4. If I don't want it, then I save $100. Also, the PS4 is non regional. A lot of the ones features are only available in the US.
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            • Sigh... PS4 only announced a few exclusives. it has 20 overall. look it up. Plus: with the consoles about equal in specs, the xbox one restrictions are what drag it down to second place. I WAS going to buy a One, until I heard about the restrictions. Plus I don't want a kinect... so why pay for it? Yes, if I want the whole bundle, they actually cost the same. But I don't. I just want the system itself. Soooo IMO PS4 won, just for being modular and nonrestrictive.
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              • 1. Nobody gives a -blam!- about the eye. The reason the Xbox is expensive is because you HAVE to buy the Kinect. You do not have to buy the eye. 2. The cost of a year of Live and a year of PS+ is the same. Take that price out of the equation, it offsets. 3. Microsoft did the same thing with their "exclusives". So strike that one too. 4. I'm pretty sure that the Xbone is not backwards compatible. Strike that one as well. So far we have Sony still being less money by 100 dollars. 5. You cannot have more than one person playing your license of the game at once in the Xbox family thing. If you buy a copy of CoD: Ghost for your Family of 10, then only one person in that family can play it at a time. It's like having a single physical copy of it. You can lend it to another person, but you can't both have that copy at the same time. Nice try, though.
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                • XBL is also 10$ more than PS+. With the money ill be saving from not buying a Xbox one I can purchase 2 years worth of PS+. I'm glad Sony is going to be stepping up their online experience, I don't mind paying less than 5$ a month for a greater online experience.
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                • Why can't we have both?
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                  • PS Eye is 59$ not 100$ and isn't required for the console PS plus: 50$ for a year 10$ cheaper than live Also free games, Xbox live is copying that from july until the Xbox one release.
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                    • http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1g8t5e/lets_clear_up_the_issues_used_games_kinect/
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                    • 1. Even if Playstation Plus is the exact same cost as XBL. Because Live is ALSO required for online gaming, we can essentially nullify the cost of it for both systems, meaning the PS4 is still 100$ cheaper. 2. The Eye isn't required to run the fragging system, so I don't care. 3. Plus offers a new indie game every month, games like Don't Starve are at least a 10$ value. at 10$ every month it pays for its self awefully fast, while XBL Gold gives me games like Assassins Creed 2 and Halo 3...that I've owned for 4 years are are worth 5$ together if you're lucky. 4. Yes most games are multi-platform, but you can tell based on who showed up to what conference where dev loyalties really are. For instance, why Bungie decided to announce and run Destiny exclusively on PS4, it is the better machine, for 100$ less. It's RAM is so much faster. 5. No, Sony won the console war because they treated their consumers right. Unlike Microsoft who BLATENTLY lied. (They REALLY expect a Cloud server to be fast enough to render in real time? And wow, DRM is required for all games, because Kojima will be cranking out hotfixes for MGSV every 2 hours apparently.) And on top of that Microsoft assumed in this crap economy that people would buy a 500$ console, already a luxury, and get an accessory for that luxury with it in the form of Kinect. Microsoft CREATED a problem for the Kinect to fix. They thought that having to change the TV input was such a huge deal that they centered the console around plugging it into your cable box except nobody cared. They then banked on hardcore fans willing to see past the DRM and no used games, then told those fans to pay 500$ for it, and if they didn't like it oh well. 6. PS4 is still cheaper because if I don't like a game I can at least return it with a disc and get 20-30$ for it. So I only paid 30$ for the game rather than blowing 60$ on Xbone and having to keep the darn thing. Sony didn't twist anything, they treated consumers like human beings with limited money.
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                      • Wtf is the eye?
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                        • If you were not such a fan boy and listened they did say 140 or so games in development this year and they said they have 40 ps4 only with 20 launching with the console. I was a xbox guy since the original but this round I'm leaning to the ps4 unless xbox fully discloses their used game policy and how it will work.
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                          • The heck is with the PS community, these **** idiots, saying **** about the XB because of side effects of major conveniences, screw you PS ******** who are saying **** about the XB1, why not see the console, for what its good for and can do, rather then seeing it for its flaws. I see the PS4 as a great console that has its benefits to the gamer. I see the XB1 as a console, made from the ground up for convenience and gaming, BTW the one in the xb ONE refers to "one in all".Sony twisted words to point out the little things that make XB " less desirable" to certain people, and along with that the XB come with many perks of having a Fee. There is little to no ******* hackers screwing us over in our games. Sony copied the XB with the TV addition to the console, and didn't point it out, like microsoft did, just so you **** ******** don't call it a "cable box" like the ******* XB community did after they said that. I swear one day i will kick your uptight little *****, due to your lack of care, and acceptance.
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                            • Edited by BerzerkCommando: 6/11/2013 5:38:22 PM
                              [quote]The PS4 would cost $500 dollars with the full bundle, but to cut the cost, they pulled the Eye...[/quote] Why charge extra for something that isn't needed? It's just an unneeded extra that jacks up the price. The only things the system needs is the console, controller and a cheap headset. [quote]plus $5 dollars a month for PSN Plus, aka Xbox Live Gold.[/quote] Except PS Plus was having those free game benefits before MS started doing them. [quote]Showing three exclusives and ten other games that are also coming out on the X1, but just said, coming out for PS4. (Meaning it will come out for PS4 and not only PS4). 100 something games coming out for PS4 does not mean exclusive because 96 of those will also come out for X1.[/quote] And MS did the same thing. -Battlefront is a multiplayform game. -Battlefield 4 is a multiplayform game. -Call of Duty Ghost is a is a multiplayform game. -Dead Rising 3 might be a multiplayform game. [quote]None backwards compatible too.[/quote] And the Xbox One isn't either so why bring that up? [quote]So why is this such a big issue?[/quote] -If you go to a trip somewhere that doesn't have the internet the console is useless. Even if the place does have the internet, but no wifi and you don't have a ethernet cable. The console is useless. -If your internet is down for more than 24 hours your console is useless. -If your internet is down for more than 24 hours your console is useless. -Once the console is down being supported and the Live for it gets shutdown the console is useless. [quote]And you can still lend games to friends, but in a different way. When you install the game into your hard drive, it's added to your digital game library.. Which you can share with up to 10 people. Meaning you can have various people playing your game through the internet, while you're playing it. And you won't have to physically give them the game to play.[/quote] Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to share a game with a friend they have to be on your friends list for 30 days. With the PS4 it's just one easy step.
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                              • [spoiler]They addressed issues that uninformed people think they know. $399 for PS4, plus $100 for the eye, plus $5 dollars a month for PSN Plus, aka Xbox Live Gold.[/spoiler] You know what is cool though then.. the Eye is optional.. Kinect is mandatory.. ROFL.. That shit is gimmicky anyways.. But I hear no confirmation on this anyways.
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                                • i don't think that anyone heard the possibility of the free games on PSN you might lose if your plus account... unlike Live's free games which are for keeps.
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