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Edited by GrandmasterNinja: 6/5/2013 3:41:58 PM
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A missing sense of fear in Destiny

I feel like there is no sense of dread or fear in Destiny. And Bungie has never dealt with that feeling throughout their games in a proper manner. I mean, their slogan for Destiny is "Be Brave". But in order to "be brave" we must face our [i]fears[/i], but it doesn't mean our heroes are [i]fearless[/i]. In Halo we had the Flood, but they were never something our hero feared (in the books Chief was scared shitless of the flood btw). We saw Marines running for their lives from the Flood but when Chief arrived he was their beacon of hope and they fought back. I get that. But it made chief seem like they were just another target. We never saw the paranoia that human beings should've been dealing with [i]when they're facing extinction[/i]. And again in Destiny I fear that we AGAIN, will not witness this fear. We see three Guardians just mowing down Cabal, Fallen, tanks, etc. with their cape fluttering in the wind. I get it, it's Mythic Sci-Fi. But they're still human (well things with emotion now that we have Exo and Awoken), and they're doing a good job hiding their fear, and anger, sadness, happyness, etc. Again, our heroes seem without emotion, they're fearless, which makes them fools. I want some of the people of the Last City to be paranoid, to be afraid, to be angry, sad, happy during victories, [i]I want some emotion damn it![/i] Because we always get a badass in Bungie games (Johnson, Keyes, the ODSTs, Chief), but then if the character wasn't badass they end up being bland and unmemorable. REACH tried to bring us this, but who did we like the most? We ended up liking Jorge the MOST. The biggest most badass Spartan we've seen second to Chief. And some liked Emile also. Oh and Jun. But why not Carter and Kat? They weren't badass, they're very void of emotion, and they just sucked as characters to be honest. Jorge was badass and had the most emotion, perfect character in Reach IMO. Emile, was the last bro till the end. And Jun...we liked his cooking lol. In Destiny, the people of the LAST CITY are the ONLY HUMANS left on Earth. There are aliens seeking your extinction, to wipe you from the face of the Universe, and the fact that NOBODY seems afraid [i]ruins[/i] that atmosphere. Yes, there are strong willed people. Yes there are soldiers to this day that sign up to defend their country, and a lot of them come back with PTSD. We're not all Master Chiefs, people bred to fight and die, and even he had emotional traits in the books. I just want something more than badass it seems. I want more Jorge, more ODST like characters. Less Carter, Kat, Miranda, and bland. But we can't have just a game with characters with amazing personas, who are badass. There has to be mediocrity because, let's be honest, we're not all amazing even here on B.net (inb4 speak4urself). Yes, Destiny is about [i]us[/i], the Guardians. We always bring ourselves into the game, be it rage, awe, happiness, sarcasm, trolling, greediness, politeness, generosity. And most of our Guardians will be badass, we're pretty good at shooting thanks to Halo. So Bungie, do us a favor. We know you can make badass heroes we all love. You just don't know how to make [i]normal[/i] people. They all suck at showing their emotion. Normal people would freak the hell out if they were faced with extinction. Aliens would naturally be a hellish scenario to them. There needs to be a sense of desperation. We see it everyday on the news when we see people who are in refugee camps. Keep making the badasses, but those characters aren't realistic, in order for some immersion we need normal people everyone can relate to.
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  • Well, we haven't really seen the game yet, much less played it so it is difficult to say. We also have to keep in mind that Bungie may not be trying to push the "horror" aspects of this game too much. I am as much a fan of PE, RE and DS as the next guy but I don't think that such a world would work here. You mention that the human species is on the brink of extinction. Well that has been true for as long as any of these people have been alive. At this point it is just a daily fact of life. Humans adapt to their situation. They desensitize themselves to that environment and make that "normal". We don't wake up in the morning and hide indoors, avoiding human contact as much as possible for fear of the black plague. That isn't a part of our normal world, go back a few hundred years and it would have been different. When I was spending time with a Bedouin tribe I noticed a distinct lack of them worrying about things such as social media, what movies were coming out to theaters, games on the horizon, what some guys were doing in some office a thousand miles away. Sure they had mobile phones and access to all of that if they wanted to venture into a town or city but it just never seemed to occur to them to worry about it. They knew about it, intellectually they had no problem understanding any of it. Hell some of them had Facebook with quite a friends-list. It just wasn't a part of their "world", or something that was important to their daily lives. In my 3 years in Iraq I saw people going on about their daily lives as if the world had always been this way. Once again they knew it hadn't and that it would change more over time. Most that I talked to had hope for the future regardless of how bad things were at the time. Seems to be a part of the human condition that, hope for the future. Everywhere I have ever gone people generally have that in some form or another. Anyway, put us in any environment long enough and we adjust to that environment. Do that over a few generations and the way things were becomes a distant memory. We have today, this is how it is, maybe we can make it a better tomorrow. Anywho, people wouldn't "worry" as much about extinction because they never knew a world where the population of humans was say 7 billion. To them the population has probably been fairly stable, or even growing. As to the combat with monsters thing. Once again you would become desensitized. You spend long enough getting almost dead, or having things try to make you that way you start to separate out the things based on level of danger. With my unit in Iraq we sort of went- AK fire = not so bad, RPK = bad, Dragunov = worse, mortars = worse yet, RPGs = very bad, directed explosives/IED = chance that the whole day had gone to hell. Given that we were wearing body armor and that most people firing small arms in our general direction were pretty much untrained, it wasn't as big a threat as long as you didn't start dancing out in the open. Explosives on the other hand, well those are different and they care a lot less about the armor you have on. You can get relatively used to that sort of life though. It becomes "the way things are". Hell for the first two months after My wife and I came back to the US she had to do the driving, and she had never driven here before. I had a lot of bad habits, but I got them in what was "the normal world" for me and it took time for this life to become normal again. Actually all of that kind of stuff along with learning about cultures is what got me interested in Psychology and Anthropology. These days that is what I do. Errr, I suddenly feel the need to apologize a bit, I rambled on there for a while. Not even sure it had much to do with the topic. I thought I was cutting myself off a bit more than I was. As on of my favorite authors has said "It can take me three pages just to clear my throat", though I try to keep that to a minimum on forums. Sorry again folks.

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