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Edited by ToasterTron2000:
10/27/2022 5:56:10 PM
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I think most pinnacles should be un-sunset.
I don't give feedback very often, and I know the bungie forums are a cesspool 99 percent of the time, but this has been bugging me for quite a long time.
The majority of sunset pinnacles, that so many players spent a lot of time getting, shouldn't be sunset anymore. From purely a balance standpoint, most don't compete anymore or have their unique perk on other guns currently in the game.
Besides mountaintop, recluse, and revoker, almost all of the pinnacles are balanced if not underpowered now.
For example:
Luna's Howl/Not Forgotten: While being very consistent 140s, they have very poor range, at like 33, 34 meters. Pretty much any current hand cannon has better dueling perks and longer range, not to mention hand cannons aren't meta anymore.
Guns like redrix, 21 percent delirium, loaded question, wendigo, and python have all of their perks on other, better guns, with better perk combos and stats.
Weapons like hush, oxygen, and breakneck all had fun, unique perks, but were never overpowered.
Even in terms of PvE, oxygen sr3 and breakneck currently get completely outclassed by subclass 3.0 perks like voltshot or incandescent.
I understand that I can technically still use these weapons but let's all be honest with ourselves. We're not going to just break these guns out to use them for patrols or strikes. It's not the same being able to main the guns and be able to use them anywhere.
**Edit**
I also want to mention, it would be very fair for them to be un-sunset because all players have access to them now!
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Mountain Top can stay sun set now. Has anyone tried firing this in mid air.... the grenade that comes out is like a boomerang.
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In this meta every pinnacle would be balanced.
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Destiny is a looter shooter. Bungie wants us to want to get new guns, not play with old guns we already own or guns that are easy to get. It's the same pattern for 8 years. Nerf or sunset old or hot guns and buff a new gun so people chase it. Rinse and repeat....
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Edited by Supernuke17: 10/30/2022 5:25:45 PMI want my Redrix and Mountain Top hōe era back ! >:(
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Luna should be made a 180 exotic.. The perk should be 3 head shots on the same person (just so you can't 2 tap someone anymore - shame). That's all they had to do with that gun. Instead, they made it really crap with a bizarre recoil pattern. Recluse again should be re released as an exotic (I don't think this gun is stronger than funnelweb). Revoker, well that was broken but I would like to see the gun model again. Mountain top, was broken (so fun to use)
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Edited by Unbreakable Patches: 10/30/2022 8:42:07 AMIt’s not necessary for a lot of them. Mountaintop would still be annoying. Revoker is Revoker. 21% Delirium would be the de facto best in slot machine gun for the rest of time unless they remove overflow from it.
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2 RepliesThe Shadowkeep ritual weapons definitely deserve to be unsunset.
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No But yes All those that had unique perk should stay dead .recluse ,MT,revoker,Lukas ect But those that had 2 perk option per column like our current seasonal weapon yhea But now there's weapon that used to have unique perk but these perk returned ....redrix,delirium and that heavy GL....those are acceptable too
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2 RepliesALL should be un-sunset!
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Edited by Pilotslover: 10/29/2022 9:01:55 PMI still don't understand, with bows being such a rare weapon type, they sunset any of them. Especially the No Turning Back, we stil haven't had a primary bow with the same feel it had. ... I miss my NTB.
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10 RepliesEdited by TheLastNerf: 10/28/2022 3:41:52 AMRecluse was far from OP at the time it was sunset. Now we have very similar perks that Master of Arms may be marginally better than, but wouldn't completely topple like it did previously. Though the buff if provides is 30% (slightly higher than most perks), it only increases Precision damage, making it viable if you are consistently hitting headshots, but otherwise balanced. As for Mountaintop, I think they could un-sunset it with how terrible it is currently. It's about 85% worse now than when it was nerfed and subsequently sunset. It has abysmal in-air accuracy, the damage was significantly nerfed, and the velocity was destroyed. I understand it was a bit broken previously, but Bungo completely killed it everywhere Revoker is one I agree should stay sunset. I can't see any way in which it could be changed to still be unique, but not rewarding failure to hit shots
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Maybe they’ll eventually just bring back all sunsetted weapons as reissued versions with new perk pools. But to rework the already sunsetted versions? It is possibly not ideal on Bungie’s behalf.
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Edited by Asylum: 10/28/2022 2:54:42 PMThe only reason bungie sunset was because recluse and mountain top. That was it. And since bungie has no idea how to balance youll never see them return. They were fine until everyone started getting them then the streamers and sweats had to cry because they were no longer the exclusive top dogs. They actually had to play fair so they cried and got a whole bunch of gear sunset because bungie balances things as good as a fat drunk on a seesaw
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Mountaintop isn't op anymore after testing it a bit man it was terrible. If you're in the air it gains like a 95% accuracy penalty and is impossible to aim, if the explosion hits right next to a target it deals 10 damage so only a direct hit will kill but even when on the floor it still has an accuracy penalty thanks to the perk meaning 50/50 chance it even goes straight.
