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1/3/2020 7:00:51 PM
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Auto rifle buff suggestions

I'm going to put my thoughts here for pve first, pvp will be at the end because it's a lot more wordy. I'm going to avoid touching the exotics. 720 rpm: 15% pve damage buff vs minors. 15% recoil reduction on console. Base magazine size should be 53 or more across the board. 600 rpm: 10% pve damage buff to majors. 15% recoil reduction on console. Base mag size should be 43 or more across the board. 450 rpm: 20% pve damage buff to minors and 10% to majors. 10% recoil reduction on console. 360 rpm: 10% pve damage buff vs minors. 15% recoil reduction on console. Ok now its pvp time. [b]General pvp change for all weapons: Make all numbers true and not rounded. It makes the weapons damage very deceptive and hurts their power when some of them don't even do close to the actual damage they say they do.[/b] Useful tools for this section: This is a ttk chart. To view resilience hp levels, click on "archetype ttk comparison tool" and it should be in the top right corner on mobile. Keep this in mind, the ttk values are against 6 resilience and below guardians in this chart (I'm fairly certain it used to be against 9 and below as the numbers shown don't fully add up if you do some math, I don't blame them though if they didn't update it, would be a pain in the ass). https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_6zsM7kzvg0aUT8YtM_-Wg_5K1gKDOlrwfVzutEjq-s/htmlview 720 rpm: Current values: 19 crit and 13 body. Increase bodyshot damage from 13 to 14. New optimal ttk at 8 crits and 3 body to kill 7 resilience and below. Bodyshot ttk drops from 1.25 to 1.08 against 8 resilience and below (it would currently be 1.16 against 7 resilience and below guardians but the numbers are likely rounded so it would be slower in our current sandbox.). Notes: my goal with this change is to give it more forgiveness as an archetype because they are much too similar to the adaptive frame while offering significantly less range and I couldn't adjust this without unintentionally trying to decrease the bodyshot ttk value. That's how auto rifle damage is, a single point means a lot. But I feel like this doesn't really matter because you will never 100% bodyshot a person anyways. 600 rpm: Current numbers: 22 crit and 14 body. Increase precision damage from 22 to 23 (it already visually shows 23 at closer ranges, but it's not actually doing it thanks to the numbers being rounded). New optimal ttk becomes 8 crit and 1 body, no change to the speed of the ttk across all resilience levels (24 damage would do that). 23x8=184, 2 hp under 0 resilience 450 rpm: Current values: 26 crit and 18 body. Increase precision damage from 26 to 27. New fastest optimal ttk at 7 crits for a ttk of 0.80 against 3 resilience and below. Overall ttk reduced from 6 crit and 2 body to 5 crit and 3 body against 3 resilience and below. Notes: The purpose to this change is to make it more consistent as a weapon type. It currently struggles due to the rounded damage they deal and they are only somewhat forgiving across the board despite being in the frame section where consistency is supposed to be their advantage. I want to completely avoid making it kill faster if possible but in no way could I tune the numbers without something changing to some degree. At least it's only against 3 resilience and below guardians which is very easy to get over. Very bad base stats and a mod should do it easily. 360 rpm: Current values: 36 crit and 22 body. Reduce received flinch. Notes: The ttk values are fine to me but with the recoil reduction I suggested above and an overall reduction to flinch, this weapon type should be much more potent across the board as you will no longer be at the mercy of rng to win gunfights...at least not as much. Please leave your thoughts and concerns below. It took me over an hour to do the tuning I found most beneficial and I would appreciate some unending praise (just kidding).

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