I like fist of havoc.
It's not a bad super, I just wish it had more usability, especially since a lot of titan supers are already aoe/splash damage to begin with.
I think the only real problems with fist of havoc are the low-end damage and the insane amount of energy it takes per attack.
As a super, it's really fast and it's effective for what it does...but it just feels so weak in pve that I usually avoid it altogether.
I think a 20% buff to the fist of havoc slam and a 30% buff to the shoulder charge (DURING FIST OF HAVOC) in pve would go a long way.
In activities like nightfall, it takes roughly 3 entire fists of havoc to kill a orange bar knight when you don't use code of the earthshaker.
Since you can only use fist of havoc 3 entire times (not including the initial one) the damage is just not acceptable.
Next would be the energy consumption.
This super has a really nice duration and that doesn't need a buff, but the energy it takes per attack is ridiculous.
If you've ever used fist of havoc, you can see just how much energy it uses per attack.
I know people probably wouldn't like this in crucible, but it really needs a energy reduction per attack.
I think a straight 25% reduction to fist of havoc would be a really good one, and a 15% reduction to the shoulder charge would definitely help.
You can only use 3 fists of havoc OR 7 shoulder charges if you use the super from beginning to end.
Having an extra fist of havoc and an extra shoulder charge would help so much.
I know titan supers aren't meant to be efficient, but fist of havoc is overkill with the energy it burns.
Edit: to clarify with everyone, this post is about the super and not the neutral game.
I have no issues with the neutral game with striker (besides maybe a small one with juggernaut).
I just want this super to make better use of its sole purpose, which is to clear ads.
Since titans already have 5 other supers that do the same exact thing, I don't necessarily think fist of havoc performs all that well, especially since the release of the new supers.
A 25% reduction would only grant an extra slam if you used the super from start to finish, not a straight addition to the duration.
This buff would also not effect aftershocks which doesn't need a buff.
Remember, I'm talking about the base super.
When I say shoulder charge, I mean the light attack in the super, not the melee ability.
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It's not great in PvP either now
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I think it should allow for at least one more slam in crucible.
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I wouldn’t mind if it did more damage to bosses too
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Then buff Nova Bomb and Golden Gun. It's only fair.
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How bout we get rid of fistsssssss of havoc and bring back fist of havoc
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I sexually identify as a AIM-120 C missile, so I have no problems.
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Edited by GiantSlayer: 10/17/2018 4:21:51 PMThe slam animation should be faster, The damage radius should be bigger, And it needs some more health. Nova Warp shouldn’t be harder to take out.
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Titans asking for a buff? Troll? extra fist of havoc extra shoulder charge. I mean damn dude I'd take a second blade barrage or double celestial nighthawk if bungie is handing out crazy pills
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Already a OHK, now you want it to be a No Hit Kill. TLDR: Bungie will likely do it...
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I disagree, thats all i play in pvp dropping we rans left and right with it.
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Buff hunters while we’re at it.
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Honestly the whole striker class is crap compared to the other two. A class that is all about being up close and yet doesnt have the damage or survivability to do so. The top void tree not only gives an overshield on a melee but also heals and starts health regen. If the striker melees even added the heal instead of just the regen then it would be a huge boon.
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Buff nova bomb while their at it
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D1 was the glory days of the striker class.
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Super is so trash now
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Sounds good but you should try to be a bit slower so that bungie can understand... PVE buffs not PVP you got that bungo?
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Whats this? A pve buff??? Yes sir I hope you get your buff. I don’t mind abilities being really good on pve, its what makes the game fun
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Welcome to 2/3 hunter subclasses this DLC. Way of the wraith has 1 useful perk that half the time doesn't work, the super is trash. Arc staff got a damage nerf requiring you to get a reflect in to do maximum damage which reflects never happen except in crucible
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hell no you got the stupid ohk shoulder change back deal with it
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Okay... So you're the same guy who asked to buff Golden Gun. I'm starting to think you don't even play this game.
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Titan slam isn't weak in PvE. I think Striker is in one of the best places it's ever been. I am a striker main.
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FISTS of havoc, you mean.
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Fist of havoc is a nice perk, but we all know the shoulder charge is the real super of that subclass!!!
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It's fine where it stands now. Use skullfort grab a stardust shotgun and run around destroying enemies with SC and shotgun. Sc can kill multiple enemies and with skullfort you constantly have it. Spec with melee kills grants bonus super energy and you'll have supers faster. Now the fist of havoc is not a boss killing super. So use the double pulse grenade and serious heavy weapon to do boss dps.
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my first initial thoughts were to expect seeing "increase range" lol