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Edited by Janaquim: 7/16/2018 7:55:37 PM
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Pay-To-Win Trials & Iron Banner

Hey Guardians, Most of what I've heard that's coming in the future for Destiny 2 sounds pretty good - I'm cautiously optimistic at this point. However, I'm a bit weary of the changes Bungie is making to Iron Banner and Trials for year 2, especially with power level mattering. By the way, I never played trials or Iron Banner in Destiny 1. Though I played a bunch of Elimination in D1 and loved it to bits. Such an awesome mode. Now, this leads me to the comments and questions below: [b]1. How power mattering will actually make Trials and IB better?[/b] The way it is set right now, and especially in trials, your skill as a player and as a team is what will get you over the other team even if you don't have the best guns. With power mattering, won't this make skill level not that important, as long as you have more power and the right guns? How is this more fun or fair? [b]2. Bungie will be hiding trophies and achievements behind a hefty pay wall?[/b] With power mattering, you can only platinum the game (or get all the achievements) if you buy all the DLCs. There's no way in hell a 305 player will ever have any chance to win a trials match against any other teams, unless he's carried by some awesome three-guardian teams. You need to win a trials match to get one of the trophies. Either remove the trophy from the game or change what you need to do to get it, if you want to have power level mattering. [b]3. Year-1 players won't have access to Trials and Iron Banner.[/b] Technically they will, but as soon as they enter any of the modes, they'll be totally destroyed by anyone who has any DLC because of power-level differences. So, there's no way anyone is going to play those modes that's not a year-2 player. When you buy Destiny 2, Iron Banner and Trials are part of the package, so Bungie is for the second time trying to cut content that people should have access to and play, no matter the version of the game they have. [b]4. Isn't this pay to win?[/b] If you buy all the DLCs, you'll be able to get more power, and with that, will be able to defeat anyone who hasn't payed a bunch of money to have access to the entire game. This is the definition of pay-to-win: use money to get more power over everyone else who hasn't. This becomes way more egregious if you take in consideration that Trials and IB are part of the base game. ------- I haven't seen anyone talk about this, so I though I should comment here to get the ball rolling about this - hopefully. [i]Bungie: "Wanna play something you already payed 60$ and have it be fair? Pay another 70$, please! But don't worry! We're doing it all for you ... [/i] Thanks a bunch for reading.

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  • Yea they steal content again ;D we should have refund game.

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  • Edited by Lord_Shar: 7/16/2018 8:23:32 PM
    I thought I had read that Glory ranking would be used for match making, not Light-score. This makes much more sense because resulting players matching would be based on current win/loss ratios. Glory ranking is a much more accurate representation of PVP prowess as opposed to light score which is more PVE-oriented. Character Level + Light score advantages are normalized / disabled in PVP as well.

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    • They are not going to hold back content just for you. Grow up.

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      • You just don’t get it.... No need to respond just gonna mute ya

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        • I got cancer reading that. Plus a headache. So many shades of stupid.

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          • You might want to pay attention to the agreements that you enter in to. [quote]Either remove the trophy from the game or change what you need to do to get it,[/quote] https://www.bungie.net/en/View/Bungie/SLA [quote]LIVE GAME ELEMENTS: Your use of the Program involves interaction with Bungie’s live game environment. The Program and its live game environment change over time.[b] Bungie does not guarantee that you will be able to participate in all events or earn all in-game achievements[/b]. Access to some Live Elements may require additional purchase through an expansion pass or otherwise.[/quote] It is not pay to win, it is pay to stay current. At some point, every player needs to evaluate if they want to continue playing this game at a competitive level. Those who continually support Destiny financially should not be held back and forced to play a stripped down version of the game because of those who choose to no longer support it.

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