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"we don't want to mess up your head cannon"

My warlock would've never put his beloved bad juju down. My warlock wouldn't have forgotten how to use shatter nova bomb My warlock wouldn't have let ghal monologue him until my light vanished. My warlock wouldn't have taken orders from Sloane, knowing that she has commander rank for doing virtually nothing while my fireteam and I have been killing Gods and timelords for years My guardian would have taken the the vanguard to the shard of the Traveller asap. My warlock would've questioned where all of the precautions that sprawled the system we set up went during ghaul's assault My warlock wouldn't have forgotten how to get to the moon, Venus, the exclusion zone, the cosmodrome, plaugelands, reef, and etc. My warlock wouldn't have helped calus get rid of Argos or kahor. He my lock would've gathered as many voidwalkers as possible and wiped out the Leviathan, and then deal with them. My warlock would've told Osiris that the speaker was dead. And while, he was at it, he would've asked him about everything he knew about the vex and his relationship with Toland, etc My warlock wouldn't have listened to a word ana Bray has said considering all of it conflicts with what he's learned about Rasputin over the past 4 years. My warlock would be going out a experimenting with the taken and how they are growing in power with their new connection to savathun. My warlock would've searched for uldren as soon as he realized he might be a part of this new mega house of fallen My warlock would have checked on the vault by now to make sure atheon didn't unlock the vex's ontological power out of the vault. My warlock would've check to make sure nothing was going on in the Dreadnaught I could go on and on. Fact is the warlock on my screen isn't MY warlock. It's a puppet that looks like him. And if you are going to make that puppet do what I wouldn't, just give it a name and a voice so it isn't awkward as hell for every cutscene he's in That. Is [b]NOT[/b] my warlock. So don't try to say he is. Because if that really is supposed to be my lock, then you've already -blam!-ed up my head cannon just from the actions you force him to do Edit: overall answers to some stuff I've seen. "It's just a game" [spoiler]true. A game I payed for. I want to enjoy it. I fell in love with this franchise in 2014, and want to see if thrive. So if I see a flaw, I'm gonna call it out. Because if people don't complain or pitch ideas, then nothing can gets better. I mean, people seem to have forgotten the reason most of the cool changes for forsaken that are coming are due to the community complaining[/spoiler] "Why can't we just say our guardian wants to help people" [spoiler] because that belittles the point of it being YOUR guardian. Look, I'm a dick. I don't always want to help. I have certain principles. And if MY guardian doesn't reflect that it shouldn't be my guardian. It should be a "Joe" or "Steve" with their principles so there is no conflict in ideal in action. And even then, if my cannon is getting -blam!-ed anyway, I might as well get to TALK[/spoiler] "Alternate universe" [spoiler]I mean, fine. I'm cool with that, but why didn't they say that. By not saying that, it makes seem like we're just writing them out of certain problems they made[/spoiler] "You should follow Sloane" * Other thing they disagreed with from my 'my warlock would/wouldn't' speed [spoiler]I put those specifically to highlight how my guardian and his ideals conflict with his actions. Thus, the cannon is -blam!-ed, thus we should at least get to speak. Instead, some saw it as a way to prove sloane deserved to be listened to as if she'd be demoted otherwise. Listen I don't care if Sloane is commander. I care that Sloane is the only commanding officer that got her title with basically no feats, or one really vague one of climbing the ranks. It doesn't feel like she earned it. That's my opinion and I stick by it. I believe instead, it should have been jagi or saladin or efrideet, etc. And if it we're MY guardian, I wouldn't follow her. That's all I was trying to say[/spoiler] Edit 2: more answers to prominent responses (not everything, but as much as I could remember, so sorry if I didn't respond to your rebuttal) But first, I will restate my problem and the solution to it [b][u]PROBLEM[/u][/b]: bungie has stated they don't want to mess up our head cannon by giving us a voice that may not sound like what some players imagine or it might not say what they want. At the same time, they have forced our guardian, a guardian they've marketed to be YOU the player into committing to specific actions. And some of these actions might not align with the players ideals, leaving them to say "I wouldn't do that." Or "why can't I do this" [b][u]SOLUTIONS[/u][/b]: A) give us a voice. If our actions mess with some of our cannons, we might as well have a voice. Not having one just makes cutscenes and parts of the game more awkward than they need to be B) allow us to eventually pick our own paths with certain allegiances and hatreds dependent on the player with consequences and rewards for one's actions. (I doubt this one will come seeing as it would be difficult to implement, and d3 already started development, so... D4? Maybe) C) just give us a pre established guardian with their own backstory, morals, and principles. That way if they do something that may not align with our ideals it doesn't matter as it isn't OUR guardian. It's someone else. Okay, now to the responses "It's an fps not an RPG. Why care about story" [spoiler]saying a game can't tell a story is a flawed and archaic argument. And it's even worse when you try to excuse it because it's an fps. Bioshock, Titanfall, and Halo (a franchise made by bungie themselves) are all fps that can and do tell stories. And destiny can to. All they have to do is read their own lore... And put it in the game. That's been my complaint for almost half a decade now. Excusing from doing it solves nothing [/spoiler] "This isn't that type of game. you can't pick your own path. Just go" [spoiler]if that's the case, I'm fine with it. I wasn't even solely suggesting we get our own paths. But can we at least get our voices? For -blam!- sakes, if we already have a messed up cannon, that should just be something g we have. Or again, just. Give us. Pre established guardians. With their own ideals so their actions MAKE SENSE[/spoiler] " you sound like a narcissist/ you vape with your lock?/ Your guardian is a Mary Sue/ etc" [spoiler]I appreciate the compliments. There were many more, but these were my favorites. Unfortunately, I wasn't called a -blam!-. Not going to act like that wasn't a disappointment. Just have to try harder next time. In all seriousness, though. This is a part of my point. The warlock in my head cannon won't align with everyone else's guardians. No one's will. Which is why it is immediately flawed when they try to put us all on the same path. Either accept that it is intrisically flawed and give us a voice or give us pre established characters with their own back stories so shit makes sense.[/spoiler] "You don't complain when other mc's from other games do what you don't" [spoiler] that's because kratos, Nathan Drake, noctis, and etc aren't marketed as me. They are their own persons with their own backstories and histories I wasn't okay with alot of what kratos did by game 3... Kinda went... A bit too far, but he was his own character so I accepted as his actions. But the guardian has always been marketed as THE PLAYER. As such, there is no defense. It just feels a bit lazy [/spoiler]
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  • ... you used the word ontological wrong, ontology is the study human condition and what makes us, us.

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  • [quote]My warlock would've never put his beloved bad juju down.[/quote] It was an ok exotic [quote]My warlock wouldn't have forgotten how to use shatter nova bomb[/quote] Only good for pvp [quote]My warlock wouldn't have let ghal monologue him until my light vanished.[/quote] That’s not how anime works [quote]My warlock wouldn't have taken orders from Sloane, knowing that she has commander rank for doing virtually nothing while my fireteam and I have been killing Gods and timelords for years[/quote] I kinda agree on that, but then again, how much older is she compared to us? [quote]My guardian would have taken the the vanguard to the shard of the Traveller asap.[/quote] Actually, it only spoke to us. It wouldn’t have worked on anyone else [quote]My warlock would've questioned where all of the precautions that sprawled the system we set up went during ghaul's assault[/quote] We weren’t around for that. We were at some sort of parade [quote]My warlock wouldn't have forgotten how to get to the moon, Venus, the exclusion zone, the cosmodrome, plaugelands, reef, and etc.[/quote] Those locations weren’t the focus of the Cabal attack [quote]My warlock wouldn't have helped calus get rid of Argos or kahor. He my lock would've gathered as many voidwalkers as possible and wiped out the Leviathan, and then deal with them.[/quote] Not likely. Do you even comprehend just how big that ship is? [quote]My warlock would've told Osiris that the speaker was dead. And while, he was at it, he would've asked him about everything he knew about the vex and his relationship with Toland, etc[/quote] We assumed the Speaker was MIA. Asking about the Vex would take many years [quote]My warlock wouldn't have listened to a word ana Bray has said considering all of it conflicts with what he's learned about Rasputin over the past 4 years.[/quote] I’m not sure where you’re going with this [quote]My warlock would be going out a experimenting with the taken and how they are growing in power with their new connection to savathun.[/quote] It’s simple. A new king means new powers. New powers mean new rules. Nothing we can’t figure out on the spot [quote]My warlock would've searched for uldren as soon as he realized he might be a part of this new mega house of fallen[/quote] Aside from the grimoire card, we wouldn’t have known he was the new leader. We assumed he was dead or lost in space [quote]My warlock would have checked on the vault by now to make sure atheon didn't unlock the vex's ontological power out of the vault.[/quote] What for? The Vex mimic the hive, or at least try to. They can’t use their powers outside the Vault [quote]My warlock would've check to make sure nothing was going on in the Dreadnaught[/quote] We’ve already killed every ascendant and named there [quote]I could go on and on. Fact is the warlock on my screen isn't MY warlock. It's a puppet that looks like him. And if you are going to make that puppet do what I wouldn't, just give it a name and a voice so it isn't awkward as hell for every cutscene he's in[/quote] If that’s how you feel...

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    • In response to this I quote my own Warlock: [quote]” .”[/quote]

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      • I came up with an idea of my guardian not being the Guardian that has destroyed all these gods. I'd really appreciste you all taking a look and letting me know what you think. Might include your username as a Cameo lol. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/247069550/0/0 Thanks Guardians. But yeah. Our guardians need to freaking talk damn it.

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        • My Hunter wishes he had a "head cannon." He would never use any other gun if that were the case.

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          • With our guardians mute, they're already breaking everyones headcannons. I have had 9+ Guardians throughout my years of destiny across 3 accounts. I gave each and every one of them their own names, personalities, and desiries etc. They all had their own backstorys and relationships qith eachother, all being part of one giant clan I dubbed the "shadow breakers". When one died (deleted from account) I gave them a proper send off in my own story. The story follows the basic plot of Destiny, Destiny 2 and all of its DLCs. It's... a work in progress.

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            • Edited by Grasp of Malok: 7/18/2018 7:06:08 PM
              [i]"It's an fps not an RPG. Why care about story" saying a game can't tell a story is a flawed and archaic argument. And it's even worse when you try to excuse it because it's an fps. Bioshock, Titanfall, and Halo (a franchise made by bungie themselves) are all fps that can and do tell stories. And destiny can to. All they have to do is read their own lore... And put it in the game. [/i] And i think Black ops 3 did the same thing in the campaign too.

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            • Edited by BornANew2020: 7/17/2018 1:21:05 AM
              In destiny My warlock: fwc My titan: new monarchy My hunter: dead orbit Destiny 2 All characters must pledge to same allegiance breaks my head canon. Edit: I miss our voiced guardians as well. My head canon would not have my guardians be mutes. Maybe my titan exo who knows how many memory wipes he is at and for all I know his voice regulator doesn't work anymore. Now my awoken and human should still talk at least.

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              • This is the most hilarious, shallow, insular diatribe of autism I’ve ever read.

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                • So if you written the story we'd have nothing to do. Great game you've created......

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                  • Shut the -blam!- up, You act like your warlock is a real living person. It’s a V I D E O G A M E

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                    • Bump and upvote. I can relate to all of this. Might I add, My Warlock would never pledge allegiance to any Faction other than FWC but is forced into others because Bungie needs to pad content. My Warlock also would not have been caught dead (again) without her Hopscotch Pilgrim.

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                      • Warlock- The other, other guardian alternate. Warlock- "hold on guys, I need to switch chars, gonna grab my stupid warlock." Warlock- "Guardian down!" "Stupid warlock jumps."

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                      • Great post man, the fact of the matter, I don't see eye to eye with all the children playing this game... Your Warlock is aok.

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                      • My warlock: “okay guardians guess what shards can give us back our light! So line the hell up!”. My Hunter: “Zavala with all due respect can you stop -blam!-ing moaning about Rasputin?”. My titan: “-blam!- this shit I’m out.”.

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                      • My head cannon is actually level 89 currently. I haven't masterworked it yet but the stats are decent still!

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                      • Man. I thought his was going to be about a hand cannon that was made for head shots. A head cannon...if you will. Mucho disappoint.

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                      • Finally someone gets it

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                      • I know I've already made a comment here, but this whole post is dumb.

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                        • You have waaaay to much time on your hands.

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                        • For the love of all that is holy, if you're going to go on an epic rant like this learn how to spell! *canon Good God, your argument lost half it's strength for that alone.

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                          • Time to go outside now kid...

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                          • This post is a bit of a mix for me. There are some parts I completely agree with, like the bad juju it’s amazing, and then there are parts where I wonder what you’re thinking like with the leviathan. Do you have any idea how big that ship is? Not to mention Calus controls everything on it so getting around to find any weak spots, which we don’t know if we can even destroy, would be difficult to impossible.

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                            That’s great but.. you are not your guardian.

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                            • I can sort of relate to the raid stuff. Have not raided in D2 at all.

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                            • This guy is pretty invested.

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