Bungie has made way too many poor decisions regarding D2. A huge one being the fact they DID NOT go with dedicated severs yet they want to keep pushing this pile of trash as a PvP game. Destiny 1 had cheaters i'm sure, but not to the extent of how common it is now to see in D2. But hey, for some idiotic reason a few people and Bungie think it won't fix anything. Not to mention this is the series that constantly gives you "connecting to Destiny servers message" then some error code named after an animal which has no real information regarding as to why their server are so shit (matter of fact I may just call snag a screencap of it requesting a one-time refund from Sony stating I can't play the game, have no faith in Bungie they will fix this broken game at this point). With Far Cry 5 and God of War about to release Bungie doesn't stand a chance at retaining playerbase. Ace Combat 7 Red Dead 2 Spiderman (made by Insomniac games) Kingdom Hearts III Metro Exodus The Inpatient Days Gone Dreams Vampyr ...and a few others later this year. I'm even rooting for EA's Anthem to kick the shit out of D2 and snag some of the dwindling playerbase away from Bungie (assuming Anthem's base game, content and launch is executed properly and not another microtransaction bust geared toward RNG content behind a paywall). Bungie as a dev has gone too far downhill. Their piss poor g̶a̶m̶e̶ Beta and "content" will be overshadowed by better devs and games pretty soon.