I feel like it's been on that path for awhile now, we've just hit a downhill slope lately. It's because Bungie no longer cares about having a community, just making money. The people there now just want to ride out the Bungie name and take what fame and fortune they can get out of it. Unfortunately, their lust for fortune has given them the sort of fame one shouldn't want. You're probably saying "oh this is just a Bungie hater", but think about this for a second. Halo Reach had a secret room in one of the final levels that paid tribute to all of the videos and communities that the Halo series had created over the years. Where was that in Destiny?

I do not think that it is to be honest. A lot of the community are united in taking a stance against the sometimes baffling practices of Bungie. There are dissenters, of course, and they are entitled to their opinion but I, and I believe many others, find it difficult to understand how Bungies disrespect for their own community can be excused. The community was far more fragmented in previous years, constantly turning on one another over SBMM, over OMM, and a myriad of other things like the Community Council idea mooted by some. As I have said in other threads, but I think it worth repeating, I do not excuse the bad behaviour that I have seen in this forum in any shape or form or personal attacks. Despite these hiccups, however, I get that there is an overall sense here that Bungie have gone to far in their lack of meaningful communication and deceit over throttling, well, everything. I feel that we are more united than we have ever been

Yes. But it was kept together by an illusion. That D2 would magically fix all of D1s problems and be the game of our dreams. When it actually tried to fix D1s problems and made new ones in the process.

The tipping point has been reached. I’m not a streamer fan, so take what I’m about to say for what it’s worth. The names are leaving the game. Why? Easy. Subs are tailing off on D2. No one wants to watch it, and fewer people care to play it. They’ve moved onto other games their subs like. This is no small thing. The last two events have been marred by Bungie’s baffling need to secretly throttle experience or rewards. Chris Barrett’s promise for openness is broken, and with it possibly the last chance this franchise had to retain enough players to survive. Mark my words: people will look back at this December and January series of events and remember this as the turning point.

The lore tag is holding together [spoiler]dont know how long it will last[/spoiler]

People said the same things in Year 1 of D1 after The Dark Below as well as House of Wolves. There were long content droughts and people were constantly arguing over what the problems with the game were. Destiny is dead was in every 4th forum post and people thought Bungie could never fix their game. Content creators even had less activity and some left. Until this past month, I'd hardly ever seen anything resembling a positive and unified direction come out of these forums. Then we had the whole community united in holding Bungie accountable for Eververse. Now we have a whole community united in wanting to see Bungie improve the game. The community will be fine and the game will bounce back. It's just not going to happen over night like we all wish it would. Hell, we could be looking at another 3-9 months of waiting, but D2 will actually become good. Just look at the Division. It happened there where no one thought it could. It can happen here too.