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The Schumer Shutdown is, yup, democrat's fault.

Because apparently some people don't understand how the government, works, you need 60 votes in the senate to pass a spending bill. Republicans have 51 seats, democrats have 49. It is IMPOSSIBLE to pass a spending bill without at least 60 votes. The troll tier "hurr durr well republicans control the senate lol" excuse is just uninformed garbabe. People saying this either don't know what they're talking about or they are being intentionally dishonest. The fact of the matter is a bill came up for a vote to keep the government open and democrats didn't support it. Republicans didn't put something in the bill to piss off dems, it didn't have anything in it they actually oppose. They pulled this stunt because they wanted DACA slipped in with no immigration concessions whatsoever from republicans. They literally, not figuratively, put amnesty for illegal immigrants ahead of children's health insurance and soldiers getting paid on time, among other things. DACA wasn't going to be ended until march, there was no reason DACA had to be injected into funding the government. None. This was democrat's and their desperate attempt to get leverage because they have a minority in both houses and don't have the white house.
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  • I’m a republican now

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  • Edited by tjustie: 1/21/2018 10:17:38 PM
    [quote]Republicans didn't put something in the bill to piss off dems, it didn't have anything in it they actually oppose. They pulled this stunt because they wanted DACA slipped in with no immigration concessions whatsoever from republicans. [/quote] Mfw Democrats tried to negotiate moderate bipartisan deals that included cuts to chain migration, (full!) funding for the border wall, end of the lottery system, etc, but: •Trump is a nightmare to negotiate with, holds no consistent positions, and reneges on previously made agreements •Trump and the white house clearly have different policy prescriptions, or more accurately, Trump is a weak piece of jello while the white house is staunchly anti-immigration •Building on 1 & 2, Trump always ends up subservient to his immigration hawk advisors and friends in Congress, meaning he won't sign anything moderate [quote]They literally, not figuratively, put amnesty for illegal immigrants ahead of children's health insurance and soldiers getting paid on time, among other things.[/quote] Mfw McConnell held CHIP hostage for months just to use it as a bargaining chip. Mfw [url=https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4710181/senator-mcconnell-objects-military-pay-protection]McConnell[/url] cares about the military. Mildly related throwback to when McConnell [url=https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/12/06/mitch_mcconnell_filibusters_his_own_bill.html]filibustered a bill[/url] [i]he[/i] introduced because he didn't expect the Dems to agree with it. Mfw it's all just theatrics with McConnell. [quote]DACA wasn't going to be ended until march, there was no reason DACA had to be injected into funding the government. None. This was democrat's and their desperate attempt to get leverage because they have a minority in both houses and don't have the white house.[/quote] Mfw Democrats think [url=https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/955095991711084546]it's clear[/url] that a DACA solution won't happen, which is why they're are trying to force it through right now. Also, completely unrelated, but lol @ Trump suggesting Repubs take the nuclear option, a proposal so silly that McConnell immediately rejected it. Additionally, [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/01/19/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-trump-immigration-daca/index.html#ampshare=http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/politics/cnn-poll-shutdown-trump-immigration-daca/index.html]here's some interesting polling[/url] on who's being held responsible for the shutdown now and whether people think shutting down the government over DACA is worth it. Turns out Dems are actually fairly divided on whether a shutdown is worth it, and independents are pretty broadly against the shutdown.

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    • Democrats confuse me.

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    • Something key that you ignore concerning DACA: every day, more recipients of DACA lose legal status. So, tax-paying people, who were brought over as small children, who have families, businesses, and are part of their communities, are being deported every day because no one will pass DACA. If Trump cared about Dreamers as much as he said, he would sign an executive order. But, all he cares about is making immigration harder, which in turn drives up illegal immigration.

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    • This is accurate but cucks like max will fire back with some dumbass excuse that CNN told them to use. I'll point the dumbasses out when they post

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      • Republicans did the same thing when Obama was in office. Now you're suddenly mad about it. What's the matter? Don't like the taste of your own medicine?

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        • U.S. citizens > illegal immigrants That’s the way it should always be. Charity is great, but I don’t bust my ass at work to pay for the rest of the world. This isn’t Star Trek where everyone works to better humanity without getting paid. Dat warp drive doe...

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          • Looking through the comments, most of you sound like children. Good'ay.

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          • Much more complicated than that OP. If you look at the Republicans spending they will kill america and put us further into debt. All this other drama is avoiding the real issue. Republicans want to give more to the top and don't give two shits about anybody else. This is enabled by the fact that our president is a dumb ass and his interests are his own self interests. Democrats are just tired of Republicans abusing offices and power. They threw in a monkey wrench into it as Republican spending is out of control. No one is looking at how to pay for half of what is proposed. Sure the Democrats seem like the bad guys but they are the only ones who are sane. Republicans every time they get a president in office or have majority they try to friggan spend. George Bush Jr was no different. You just never seen half of what was going on. Republicans are out for the rich and no one else. Wake up to the fact that we can't afford another war let alone another crisis we are going to be put into because the Republicans are trying to go for Uncontrolled spending. Allot more going on here than you see. Trump keeps amplifying it by twitter and his image that he himself tarnished and not only that tarnished America along with his party. I take no sides but i refuse to turn a blind eye to stupidity.

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            • "hurr durr, conservatives are hypocrites because they shut down the government before" The government shutdown in 2013 was in the interest of the American people, the government shutdown in 2018 is in the interest of everyone but Americans.

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              • Time to just put the feet up and as Cain said [i]stay a while.[/i]

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              • Laughing stock.

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                • It doesn’t matter now. All that matters is Trump is obviously weak since he can’t get both parties together to make an amazing deal. Like he has many, many, believe me, many, many times before. The best deals. I mean he said it himself. What a weak little man.

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                • If the president and the reps couldn't do anything to get the dems on their side, then it quite frankly falls back onto the reps for not being able to win over the other side. But if you wanna ignore that then go ahead. The party system is dumb, and so are the people who show blind loyalty to both sides. Let's just split up america some more and continue to blame one another when we should be working together.

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                • Lindsey Graham is blaming Stephan Miller (R) though.

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                • I like how Faux News is all worked up about the gubberment shutdown when conservatives are supposed to be for less government. #FakeConservatives.

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                • Somewhere, a Jew is laughing at how divided America is becoming. America is honestly screwed.

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                  • Oh look everyone, the ridiculous children in Washington are fighting again.

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                    • 60 votes is a failure of the forefathers. Or whoever wrote these -blam!-ing rules, at least have a second rule that dictates death match if the vote can’t be matched.

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                      • i honestly thought this had something to do with amy schumer

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                        • Our Constitution needs a new Amendment, one that mandates that each member of Congress resign should the government shutdown on their watch, and prohibit their future involvement in politics. I wonder how hard politicians would work to keep the government open with their jobs on the line?

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                          • Some democrats were for it. Some democrats weren't for it. Some republicans were for it. Some republicans weren't for it. That's how this works. Don't get mad and blame one side in particular. Also, according to Trump, it's the Presidents responsibility.

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                            • Pointing blame at either side is pretty damn stupid, imo. I mean you have a building full of men and women who can’t compromise so they decide to shut it all down? Sounds childish. If this past election has taught us all anything it should be that bipartisanship needs to be dealt with. This party over country bs has gone on long enough

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                              • No opinions on anything else here but honestly any giving people a reason to not get into the military is lovely.

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                                • Edited by HumDrumHokum: 1/21/2018 5:38:25 AM
                                  Amusing. You don't really have a leg to stand on because the Republicans literally did the same exact thing. So, accept the hypocrisy and be quiet.

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                                  • Funny story actually cause this one time I was at chili’s ya know? It’s actually a funny story. So I was hanging out at chili’s with my boys ya know, just a casual Friday night like we do all the time. So we were at the bar and ya know we saw Donald trump walk in the door, so we look at each and we’re like “woah, it’s -blam!-ing Donald trump” so he comes over to us and sits down, orders a drink whatever. So I’m still sitting in my spot staring at trump cause like why the -blam!- is he at chili’s? I’m thinking to myself. I tell my boys that we should just leave and we get up and leave. We pay and walk out the door and see these 2 big ass tanks sitting next to each other with the “trump” name written on them, we get in our white van and prepare to leave but then that damn 3 year old girl in the backseat is acting up again from last time, thought we -blam!- her enough but oh well, we drive off and well the rest is history! Hahaha! [spoiler]kill me[/spoiler]

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