[quote]2. Buff hand cannons slightly. I should not get out gunned by an auto at close range when using a hand cannon. 6. Exotics. None are even slightly OP[/quote] 1, while an HC buff would be nice, an auto will usually win in CQC because they can be a bit less accurate. 2, If any gun were OP, the fairly well balanced (IMO) PvP would fall apart leading to a cycle of overnerfing and underbuffing, similar to D1 Signed, A Y1 player

Feeback [u]Sections[/u] -Before we Start -Identity -Micro transactions -DLC -Character Customization -Base Game content -Conclusion [b]Before We Start[/b] Destiny 2 is an improvement over vanilla Destiny 1, and it is enjoyable. But compared to Destiny 1 + Expansions, Destiny 2 lacks content and does not utilize it concept. It is an serviceable game NOT a great sequel. Before you say that “Destiny is simply a looter shooter” there are many other games that do the things Destiny attempted, but better, more effective, and start with more content available. The games I will most often reference are Borderlands 2, Diablo 3, Elder Scrolls, and Warframe. As all four games share many elements with Destiny. I want the readers to understand that the point of this post is to show that they should have higher expectations of the games they purchase. I will be going into detail about what is generally bad practice and what people should expect of a game of this scale. [b]Identity?[/b] Destiny still suffers from identity crisis. It cannot decide whether it is an RPG or a Single narrative driven game. We see them use RPG elements, that have real potential, only to be undercut by the short narrow plot that you have no ability to interact in. You might as well be Master Chief with powers who doesn’t talk. In fact most of the time your ghost talks for you. Bungie should follow through on what they wanted to do; a Co-Op Open World Action RPG. [b]Micro-Transactions[/b] Let’s be honest, the new microtransaction system affects gameplay. 1. The new Shader system is terrible and is clearly a cash grab. How does it affect gameplay? Simple. Shaders have become one-time use consumables to encourage real money purchases. 2. Having Loot Crates (Otherwise known as Bright Engrams) attached to microtransactions Ruins the hook of the game. You don’t have to earn them, you can just buy them. The core reward system of the game can be broken by using real money. That is bad design. It was not so long ago that the things Destiny are asking money for would simply just be in the game. Nothing would be withheld behind a paywall until the Expansion packs. F2P games like Warframe get to use microtransactions because they are F2P. That is how they support themselves. We already paid $60 for Destiny 2. They don’t need microtransactions. (BTW not even Diablo 3 uses microtransactions. You cannot buy Loot Crates and Colors are not one time use.) [b]DLC[/b] The way Bungie is going about DLCs is bad. Bungie Still holds back content so then they can dish it out as DLC a couple months after launch. After what happened with Destiny 1 NONE of us should be ok with this. It took Bungie about Three Years before they could make Destiny 1 feel like a whole game worth the $60 price tag. Yet I am hearing the same questions for Destiny 2 that I heard for Destiny 1. -Why are people saying Destiny 2 is simply the beginning? -Why do we have to wait for Bungie to bring more content? -Why isn’t the rest of the content in the game at launch? Destiny 2 should be a complete product at launch. The added content should not be what makes the game whole. The Game should have enough content to keep us busy to the point that a full fledged expansion does not come until half a year, or more, later. (For comparison, Skyrim did not have a DLC until a year later) [b]Character Customization [/b] 1. Character Creation I would think that when you take advantage of creating a sequel and implement a better character creation. Simply put we need more options when creating a character. We have very few faces to choose from and we can't customize facial features such as, the nose, ears, mouth, eyes, chin, cheekbones, eyebrows, etc. Also where are the beards? There's a character we meet in destiny 2 who has a beard, but we can’t get one? (Skyrim, from 6 years ago has a better character creation system and includes beards) 2. Gear For many players, how their character looks is very important to them. They want to create an identity. Like many other RPGs, MMOs, and Looters. Giving players free reign on character customization should be one of the top priorities. This is why the shader system that is currently in place is a poor design choice. It is restrictive. (In Warframe Fashion-Frame is Endgame) [b]Base Game[/b] There is a severe lack of content for a game that has Four planets, with open world environments, the player can visit. Bungie boasted about the larger environments in this sequel yet there are just as empty as the previous game. Each planet feels like a side quest rather than a world filled with characters and exploration. It feels like you are walking through movie sets rather than actual worlds. You are stuck running through empty maps waiting for something to shoot. There is no meaningful environmental interaction and the only thing to do is shoot stuff. Why are the worlds so empty? Where are the characters and activities? If there is going to be Open World environments then each planet should have loads of stuff to do that can keep you busy for hours. Each Planet should have the following. 1. Its own extensive storyline that also serves the main plot. 2. A Social Hub 3. Lots of NPCs to interact with. 4. An abundance of Side-Quests. 5. Exploration that rewards players 6. Lore 7. End Game. [u]Why an Extensive Storyline?[/u] Each world should be an investment. Each World represents a chapter in the story. Having a new environments for each major section of the game provides the sense of progression. They have beat an area and get to go somewhere NEW. Each Chapter should serve to expand upon and flesh out the universe while telling a story. [u]Why A Social Hub?[/u] If a player has to go back to the same social hub no matter what world they go to then they will feel like they are doing the same thing and nothing new is happening. Also it is disjointing from a writing perspective. Going back and forth between planets? Why? You want players to be invested in a location. [u]Why NPCs?[/u] Whether they are voiced or silent, Give the player another avenue to learn about the world while also establishing relationships with characters. No one cared about the Last City because they never had any opportunity to talk with them. Make the Ghost a character we can interact with. Who we can ask questions. Who we can develop a connection with. Have NPCs go about their business like in Elder Scroll games. A Routine of their day to day life. RPGs make sure that their worlds are Full of characters, both large and small, for players to interact with to make it feel alive. [u]NPCs: Wildlife [/u] Depending on the world, in most cases there should be wildlife. Especially on Earth.Destiny takes place almost 1000 years in the future. With nature taking over, and who knows what was done in the golden age, there should be plenty of fauna for players to see running around. Deer, Elk, Wild Dogs, Birds, maybe a bear, etc. The world is a big place, fill it. Just like NPCs, open world games feel empty without wildlife. [u]Why Side Quests?[/u] Adding a plethora of side quests to the various NPCs gives the players reasons to explore the environments. They serve as a great way to flesh out the world. They can be tiny things like; “Please find my Spouse/Child/Pet”, “Please check out this dungeon”, “Please escort me to a location”, etc. little things that flesh out the world. Also having Long storylines that don't pertain to the main story is very important as well. [u]Exploration that rewards players[/u] You want to keep players INTERESTED. Grinding for Loot is nice but it can get old. It is nice to explore and get something for your efforts. (Like in Borderlands when you find those huge chests) You have given them Open World environments with wonderful Art design and direction. Use them. Encourage players to explore the worlds and in return gain loot and lore for doing so. Exploration is a great way to get players invested. Make the ruins of humanity and other civilizations explorable and make it rewarding to do so. [u]Why Lore?[/u] Lore is almost the only thing that kept the player base interested in the game. It is what reviewers have said NEEDS to be in the game. Yet, we still see it missing Most Story heavy games have a lore codex that players can look at in the game. Destiny should have a Lore Codex (aka the Grimoire) start out with any basic information the player can learn about, then have it update with each new finding, encounter, and conversation, as you progress through the game. Fill the ruins of humanity with lore about the Golden Age: Put Books, Journals, Audio files, Drawings, Holograms, etc. things that players can check out. Having the option to ask the Ghost questions about the world, would be a great way to introduce and immerse players into the universe. (DOOM, a game where story does not matter, has a lore codex) Side Note: For a game with such rich lore, it sure lacks any story that is on par with it. Utilize the lore. Destiny 2 campaign was better than Destiny 1 but that is not saying much. [u]Endgame[/u] This goes back side quests. Destiny should have plenty of content to do after the story that is worthwhile because that is the other half of the game that makes people want to stay and adds replayability to the world. The Base game content should provide that. Players should not have to wait for a DLC three months from now to provide that content. [b]Conclusion[/b] Destiny should not be getting a pass simply because it has Potential. If it were a F2P game that would be one thing but we paid $60 for it. Destiny should be a complete Product at Launch. This post now has its own page here: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/232841334?

Still more fun than Borderlands...

You haven't even tried the full game, there are three or four more paid DLCs. 2 for 30$, one for 30$, and one thats lesser than the third 30$ one, but cost 40$. Honestly you haven't given this game a chance man. The full game will take another three years of playing. You haven't even gotten to run the missions backwards yet, why aren't you praising this game? It the best sequel ever made in the history if history!!!! Shame on you for having a brain!!!! [spoiler]satire[/spoiler]

Terribly written "feedback", weak points... No, simply no.

For a start bloom needs to be removed from hand cannons. If they require 1-2 more hits at least make them to have more accurate spam fire while ads. What I mean is no more pacing shots. People will still have to aim as well as deal with flinch. Removing bloom won't make hand cannons OP. The 3 OP exotic hand cannons aren't in this game. And the legendary hand cannons were never OP in year 1. They were just good like mida, Uriel's gift and other good weapons now.

yup. And to add: after all the rage posts regarding stickies in year 3 of D1, now I am seeing posts from people bitching that stickies are no longer a OHK. Had a poor titan try to kill me 3 times yesterday with fusion grenades - took half my health, and I just rekt him before it detonated.

Wy do you buy ass then complain that its ass?

Did you run the nightfall in the first two weeks of vanilla destiny?