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Edited by Bung1eIsSoLame:
8/25/2017 2:53:23 AM
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Bungie, here's your daily reminder that the 2 primary system is bad.
Roll it back, a lot of people hate it. Thank you.
Dead horse will be beaten until it revives. Where's the damn Night King when you need him?
Edit* And for those who need proof, here you go, courtesy of Mustafarkilla.
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/230208909/0/0
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Daily BUMP 👍
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84 RepliesEdited by TheShadow-cali: 8/30/2017 3:29:32 PMIf this company was actually listening to their player base... 1- D2 setup would have never taken place 2- PvP and PvE would have a hell of a lot better options when it comes to separating PVP and PVE adjustments instead of being lazy and nurfing everything across the entire board. They also wouldn't use nerfing the most popular as if that's creating "balance" and have this illusion that PvE "needs" a Meta change. 3- This company would have faced the challenges ahead of them and improved what the Guardians were created for when the game was released in 2014. Meaning, improving the perks on weapons, the gear that complement one another and your super. Allowing The Gamers to have the freedom to an extent customize their characters with a better leveling system. Not strip a Guardian down for 3 years straight setting more limits on gamers leaving it feeling like it's just another pumped out Call of Duty game thanks to Activision. 4- [b]( Incentive )[/b] what should be the #1 priority in this game that it did have in y1 that kept it interesting that Gamers wanting to run the repetitive content. Things like the purple engrams that you could acquire in Vanilla that would be decrypt that you had a chance on getting legendary gear and weapons, and sometimes it would decrypt and turn into an exotic. 5- They would allow Weapons and gear to work across the entire board in every single event like they did in Y1. Not this selfishness on nerfing y1 and capping it at 170 but allow everything to work as normal in PvP. With the added bonus of removing primary Elements and limiting Guardians on what they can use in certain events in PvE. 6- Keeping with the story and characters within the story. Not Luke smith trashing characters like the EXO stranger and saying that story is "completed" Hmm, how can Luke smith say the story was completed when there was never a story in the first place? Boy do we got a bright lead lol. That's just the basics but I could go on. This company majorly Lacks when it comes to communication... Lacks respecting a gamers time spent in this game. Especially when it comes to the sandbox nerfing every aspect of this game knowing PvE gamers put hundreds and thousands of hours trying to acquire certain Rewards just to watch this sandbox repeatedly Nerf them rewords, you know, how PvE "needs" a Meta change every single update. 10 years is enough for any gaming company to get a grip on their own game. Not constantly change things to fit their "needs" and call it a "new" game knowing our Guardian is a shadow of it's former self. Edit: lol I guess the people that don't like reading the Truth can't handle it, so they will downvote it. You guys that settle for less and Try to act as if it's "more" are too funny. I may get downvoted but this thread will continue to trend and that's because more and more gamers are opening their eyes and they do see the truth. Funny thing about the down votes are from ATl, I guess some gamers really like me. Thanks guys, I'm glad I matter that much to you :) Edit: 1, 30 up votes so far Edit: 2, 40 up votes Edit: 3, 50 up votes. Edit: 4, 60 up votes
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1 ReplyThe problem is that there is no real benefit to double primaries. The weapons are bland and interchangeable. It is essentially an "immediate reload" up front, that you later have to pay off by stopping to reload two weapons. This probably isn't what its intended use is, but after playing lots of hours of both betas that's exactly what it turns into. Probably caused by limited ammo and higher TTK, very limited power ammo, and the fact that only 0.001% of Destiny players have any sort of strategy when they play.
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1 ReplyBump. You need to repost this
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1 Replybump for support
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9 RepliesMy only issue with this is that all elemental weapons do the same damage to shields no matter what damage type it is. That needs to change. Shooting a shield with the incorrect damage type should result in a loss of 40% damage or something
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4 RepliesThe videos in mustafarkilla link made me want to sleep
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1 ReplyThe dead horse is nothing now, keep besting it. Bump.
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45 RepliesYou mean daily reminder that you and some others don't like the weapon system? I could easily make a post saying daily reminder, I love 2 primaries
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I am mostly indifferent, but the faults do outweigh any potential pros. New system is only as bad if they've not compensated enough in the content end of the game. Even if they adjust all of PvE to compensate for the swapping of a special weapon for a primary, having a second primary in is almost a moot point. In D1 you only ever really needed a scout as your primary, as it was good in all scenarios for PvE, plenty of ammo, and can be verstile with the right perks. D2 this is almost the case too. Had ammo been a bit more abundant, you could get by entirely on the Does Not Compute Scour rifle and abilities. What I think they should have done is invent more and new types of weapons and perks to go into kinetic and energy slots (outside exotic weapons) that would uniquely aid the loss of special weapons but without being special weapon in sheer damage output. Currently the best kind of primary weapons will be anything that cause AoE to make up for the loss of sheet damage. Sunshot, Graviton Lance, Explosive Rounds, Firefly, etc. Because if you can't get more single target damage out your kinetic/energy weapons, being able to spread damage without penalty to your single target damage is the next best thing.
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2 RepliesThe kids in those vids actually really sucked at the game. It was a terrible benchmark on how things will play.
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1 ReplyEdited by gallp13: 8/25/2017 10:58:00 PMBumping for a Mrs gallp .... she hates it Rgds old gallp Clan ANZAC https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2/Chat?groupId=2074065
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28 RepliesEdited by gallp13: 8/25/2017 4:44:46 AMAgree or not with Casey's proposition, you have to acknowledge and give thanks to those who "fight" to improve the game we all love to play. To Casey, Odin, Law and many others who try to "keep the bastards honest". [b]Thank you [/b] ....now how about that Hawthorn vignette ;) PS : Fun fact the quotation is actually the motto the Greens a major Australian Federal political party - gotta love Aussies - plenty of common dog fuq ;)
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3 RepliesDaily reminder, it's still bad and needs to go. Thank you
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4 RepliesIt's boring... and Limits your loadout... To people that say just wait till launch... We had the beta.. We played.. MOST hate it..
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Honestly, if you really prefer D1's dead beat system go back to it. A lot of people isn't everyone, and I've heard more people like or simply not give two shits about it than whine.
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6 RepliesIt's not two primaries. It's kinetic and energy weapons, each with a specific purpose and are just as deadly in pve and pvp when used correctly. Jesus people like you don't know how to change things up or even understand something fully before you go bitching about it.
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1 ReplyIt's been made to make you lose time swapping elemental weapons to take down a shield...completely dumbass...
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1 ReplyHe's heard I was around and ran.
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14 RepliesApparently there's an OFFICIAL EDZ video and a LEAKED one. The fanboys errr...SHILLS are referencing the Bungie approved video and are disregarding the leaked gameplay vid that keeps getting taken down and showcasing the absolute failure of it. Abilities still weak and on endless cool down. Dual primaries are still pecking even red bar adds. Power ammo drops still very few and far between. I personally loved the public event where the guy ran around pecking away with his primaries and finally sees a power weapon ammo brick drop and races to get it, reloads his rocket launcher, shoots a group of red bars point blank and it only takes like a quarter of their health off! Lol then he reloads and shoots another shot that magically causes him to die by the architects even though nothing was around him besides open space!
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4 RepliesBungie is going to lose a lot of players if they keep this STUPID weapon system. The new weapon system is Bungie's worst idea since they added trials to Destiny!
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33 RepliesThe new system is way better. It literally provides for more customization and variety. Maybe if people actually used a primary in the D1 system this wouldn't have happened.
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Yup, makes gameplay super boring
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It sucks, I hope Bungie hasn't the brains to put it back the way it was. Snipers, shotguns and fusion rifles as heavy weapons is Bungie's biggest blooper.
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I believe that this is going to become a fiasco...carries out! no more "you camp here with your sniper and watch this area while i push them toward you" they'll bitch. come backs, out! they'll bitch, Pvp streamers who can't get the job done will look like even worst clowns. they must have forgotten they used snipers more then anyone, slower TTK means more tactful retreats, I for one hated running down players when I had weapons that actually! did damage, can you imagine what that's going be like, don't need to imagine if you played the beta, I would run around the map getting chased by the other team while my remaining team accomplished the objective, worked every time. To focused on that kill and not the win. One of the oldest stories in D1, f--k the spark, f--k the control zone, f--k the crest...I'm all about my KD so blinded by tunnel vision players would run right by the crest, and they will cry like babies, when the S hits the fan and they are not as good as they think they are... it will be enough salt to cover the streets for the next ten winters, just my two cents
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1 ReplyIt's crap. There was zero benefit to having it in the Beta and don't see how that has changed. It exists only to appease the tryhard crowd.
