I like the the mayhem clash but it's kind of hard to finish the weekly crucible bounty for clash trying to get 50 primary kills when everyone has the super every 45 seconds and you damn sure ain't getting many special kills thanks to all the crucibabies that have been crying on the blogs and forums and the same ones are tired of using sidearms now saying I wish I can use a shot gun or legendary sniper stop crying about what is OP because someone has something you don't or have mastered a sub class that you can't counter or stop someone of ya'll got to comfortable using a particular sub class on a character and then when you go in the crucible and keep getting killed by someone with a sub class you can't counter it's your fault they don't need to nerf fusion grenades or blade dancer or firebolts learn how to use all 3 sub classes on that characters instead of some people just running golden gun or nightstalker or bladedancer my point is 1 out of the 3 sub classes can counter any other characters sub classes if you learn how to use them all instead of being comfortable and just using the same one all the time and one more thing before I go the THE CRUCIBLE IS OPTIONAL NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO GO IN THERE SO IF YOU CAN'T COMPETE OR YOU CAN'T COUNTER A WEAPON OR DON'T HAVE THE GOD ROLL SOMEONE ELSE HAS STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE CRUCIBLE AND DO STRIKES AND PATROLS WHERE THE ENEMIES HAVE THE SAME WEAPONS AND POWERS AND STOP CRYING TO BUNGIE AND MESSING UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE AND IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU WE HAVE GOOD WEAPONS JUST SITTING THAT WE CAN'T USE.......CLEVER DRAGONS, GRASP OF MALOKS, LONGBOWS, LDR, 1000 YARD, SHOTGUNS, HELL ANY THING WITH STABILITY...#CRUCIBABIES