After playing all of the fallout series. The elder scrolls series. Then playing destiny... you realize how much lack of content there really is in destiny. The story to fallout is unbelievably immersive. Your writing the characters life as u go. It flows. YOUR in control of the characters fate. Destiny, is like playing bits and pieces. It doesn't flow. It doesn't make any sense at all really. It's obvious changes were made nd the game was hastily put back together. I've been playing since release and still have no clue why I'm doing some of what I'm doing within the game. The thing I love about destiny tho is the fighting. The weapons nd skills are so much fun to use. So unique. But You just point and shoot. There's no real solid story to get attached to nd fall in love with. Ppl say pvp keeps it alive because it kinda does. It's pretty much the only thing that makes sense to the point and shoot aspect of the game. Adding depth to the story would change that. Adding small things like, giving weapons there own unique backstory. U see all these different unique weapons, with a failed attempt to give them a backstory when tht could have been achieved. Tht would have been unique to destiny nd made the game stand out tht much more. But again... it's in pieces. Instead of grimore.. tell us in game. Let the flow of the story and the character explain. Grimore says to me, tht bungie didn't have time or didn't care enough to put that info in game. Non the less I still enjoy playing the game. I just feel it had so so SO much more potential.

PvP is the only thing keeping this game alive. Bungie doesn't have enough time to create enough content and destiny content is not re-playable. Re-playable meaning still fun the second time around.

PvP is the only thing that keeps people coming back every weekend to play trials and iron banner.

PvP is a easy way to make your game last long. It makes game developers last and is slowly ruining gaming. I'm am old timer though.

PvP ruined Destiny's PvE experience, I'm really hoping Bungie realised this and do something about it in Destiny 2.

As with any similar game, I come for the PVE, but I stay for the PVP. There's only so much you can do, PVE-wise, before it becomes a retread. POE hinted at it. I'm not saying more PVE focus is a bad thing. But you'll never get the variety that legions of actual PVP players can provide. And that's why I play far more PVP than PVE.

Lmao.

1. Everything Activision is saying....and doing....points towards a VASTLY improved PVE content stream in Destiny 2. In fact, rumor has it that most of this last year has been spent working on the dev tools for the game so that they can make new content, faster. Activision recruited two studios to help Bungie produce new content. Bungie itself has nearly doubled in size as a company in the last 3 years. So I think its no longer a situation of "either-or" with regards to PVP vs PVE content. 2. Borderlands is more of an RPG than a shooter. Where as Destiny is more of a shooter...and being made by a company with a long history of making shooters. They aren't going to leave the money to be made from PVP on the table....or alienate the players who have come to expect it to be part of the game. 3. The problems Destiny one had regarding PVE were not due to PVP being included in the game. The were the result of: a. Bungie not (initially) understanding that they had created an MMO-RPG/FPS hybrid...and that the community would PLAY the game like an MMO. So they simply didn't have the resources to create content to keep up with player expectations. b. Bungie had no experience managing MMOs or RPGs...and has basically had to learn how to do it ON THE JOB....and in the glare of a VERY public spotlight on all of their mistakes. Fortunately, they finally accessed the expertise that was available at Blizzard, and things improved greatly. c. Bungie (again showing its inexperience at MMOs and RPGs) insisted on forcing PVP and PVE to share a single gear system....and a common game-tuning. Despite the needs of the respective player bases being utterly incompatible. So it ended up pitting PVP players and PVE players against one another as they struggled for control over the game's tuning, in order to get their needs met.....and it also limited the creativity that Bungie could bring to bear to PVE gear....because everything that showed up in PVE would eventually show up in PVP. Bungie doesn't need to eliminate PVP from the game. They've already done (at least by rumor) all the things that they need to do to start to allow this game to reach its full potential as that MMO-RPG/FPS we want on the PVE side of the game. The only thing that they need to do at this point is to SEPERATE PvP from PVE with respect to gear....and game tuning. That will stop the infuriating random nerfs and power-drain.....and free up their designers to give us gear that is powerful and fun to play with....without having to worry about BREAKING PVP when it shows up in the Crucible (or whatever is D2s PvP arena.)

I like raiding so I do hope they beef that up for D2, the solo campaign is really what needs help.

First expansion is a trials one ha ha ha

If D1 had so many PVE fans despite the focus on PVP by Bungie, imagine the hit it would be if Bungie focuses D2 on PVE

Bungie created the online multiplayer experience with halo 2. A lot of people bought this game solely for the bungie pvp experience. It would be foolish for destiny2 to not focus even more on pvp then they did on destiny. 2 of the most popular franchises currently (COD and over watch) are popular solely for their pvp experiences. Activision sees this and has stated they want destiny2 to be an Esport. Which is fantastic for the pvp scene, the lag and unbalanced subclasses/weapons cannot be a thing in a true competitive pvp game. There will always be a meta in these games but it should be far more balanced. I also hope for more pve content but I'm more hopeful for a solid pvp experience.