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Edited by Lemur: 3/23/2017 3:29:08 PM
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To the people complaining about the Adept Raid Weapons, Why?

I guess I'm just dense because I don't really understand why the new adept weapons are such a bad thing? We're getting some of our most favored weapons back from the abyss that is Year One but for some reason the new system being used to give us back our elemental primaries is being hated on by a lot of people on Bnet. I don't understand, ever since Year Two began people have been wanting a solar and void companion to the Zhalo Supercell but now all of a sudden it's a bad thing that we're getting just that and more. I'm not trying to be harsh and criticize people for this, so if I come off that way I'm sorry. I just want to know why people are hating on this so much. [i]Edit: Grammar and Spelling(I rushed this a little)[/i] [i]Edit 2: Leaping Leopards Batman I didn't expect this to take off.[/i] [i]Edit 3: I've been reading through all of your posts and I seem to have an understanding of it now. It seems that people are just genuinely upset that they can't run their old generic loadout from Year 1 ex: Fatebringer, Black Hammer and Gjally. I can see why that is disappointing but I also see the potential for new loadouts to be crafted from this. Fatebringer is still getting a legendary varient so it will still be one of the better weapons for VoG, the same rule applies to VoC. [/i]
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  • Edited by Zero the Remnant: 3/23/2017 10:15:25 AM
    Sigh. I'll just be blunt. People are complaining because they can't be OP & they have a bad case of nostalgia. It is funny how this community can be summed up by the picture of a snake eating its own tail. So back in Year 1 when Light was a stat on gear folks complained we all looked the same. Then, once folks began to clear raids it reached a point where you needed the same 3 weapons. Basically everyone was exactly the same. All gear had become placeholders for specific weapons & armor. Bungie agreed with the community that things needed to change. What was the point if we all looked the same, had the same weapons, & played the same? It made 90% of the gear in game worthless. And there was no variety. You saw snarky posts about folks mot having _ weapon being kicked or not allowed to group. How if you don't have __ you are pulling the team down. Etc... So they took away elements from primaries & suddenly lots of primaries became viable. Like it or hate it. I personally like it as it made my weapons acceptable. Back in HoW folks wouldn't take you into PoE 32+ unless you had the holy trinity, fatebringer, or some raid weapon. I had a God Rolled Red Hand IX, Supremacy, & a good selection of RLs & Machine Guns. But nope. You needed to be able to burn for every slot. No elemental primary? Get good scrub. No black hammer? Unacceptable. (Some let Icebreaker fill in.) No Gjallarhorn? Tough. No Skolas for you. Anyways enough on that. I find it funny that a few weeks ago people were saying that they'd like Elemental Primaries to return, they'd even accept them as exotics like Zhalo. They would accept a long tedious quest to get them. Now they got them. And it's a crime because they are exotics. Folks say the game is too easy & there is no real decision in loadouts. But now they complain they can't have the old OP Holy Trinity Loadouts which would honestly would make the game even easier. But nope, Bungie is not listening apparently. Now with elemental primaries being exotic you need to think & plan what weapon is worth the exotic slot. This is apparently unacceptable. People wanted the old raids updated. Done. And now its a crime cause it isn't brand new made from scratch content. Folks wanted Nightfall blue flame back. Done. And it is a crime because the NF doesn't waste time by sending you to orbit so apparently the flame & its buff is meaningless. *rolls eyes* Folks wanted to look different but be viable in content. Bungie made gear infusable. Which apparently was a crime because now anyone could hit max light under specific conditions with any pc of gear. Not trying to take up for Bungo as they make decisions that baffles many people. But they need to keep balance in game. They need/have to make some tough decisions. They can never please everyone.

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    • Do you consider the Adept hand cannon from KF worth keeping with scrap roll? I never knew KF had a hand cannon...sure it looks cool but crap for killing anything...

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    • Zhalo is probably the worst, least fun to play with auto rifle in destiny. All it has going for it is the burn VOC and Fatebringer by comparison were great examples of thier archetype, with burn to go along with it. WOC was ok, but just because if the burn. And anyone using any of the other elemental primaries would have been rare indeed.

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      The only thing I hate is the limited chances to get them He said it has to be the weekly featured challenge , and with 4 raids, that could be a long wait So that means only 3 chances to get my Exotic Fang next week, and if I don't get it, I will prob have to wait 3 weeks to try again :(

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      • Edited by Dang lmao: 3/23/2017 7:49:53 PM
        They should've never been made obsolete in the first place. What is hard to understand about that ? Edit: This all could've easily been solved years ago if they had implemented something like an elemental core that could be put in any primary in the game. Then all primaries would become relevant in pve content. Make it obtainable by any of the following: -A large quantity of strange coins from Xur each weekend. Maybe 100 per core ? Maybe more ? Maybe less ? -One random elemental core rewarded by doing your first weekly heroic strike (for the casual players) -A reward from nightfalls, trials, any endgame content It's really simple. The people commenting on this trying to argue cannot seem to think outside of the box, just like bungie. Use your heads people. Don't give thanks to someone who basically took away something you had before and give it back to you in a LESSER condition. This promotes a HORRIBLE business model and they're going to continue to do things like this because the vast majority of the community takes what they get without even thinking.

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        • Edited by SergioVengeance: 3/23/2017 7:12:07 PM
          I'm upset because it's a limitation of fun they are implementing while playing with our nostalgia heart strings. 1. They should be legendary as they were before. 2. They are tied to weekly challenges. So that means you can only get them once a month (raid weekly rotation) 3. This is the end of Destiny 1. Why are they adding more restrictions? 4. Who cares if they were used a lot in year 1. Let people play the way they want. 5. Elemental primaries have no real advantages in raids themselves. As most enemies in raids don't have shields. 6. Burns don't do extra damage against non shielded enemies 7. Burns only effect taking down shields. 8. Bungie nerfed burn damage before TTK 9. Bungie, added "Matchgame" to strikes 10. Raids have no burn modifiers, ever. Also. Seems hypocritical to make limitations elemental primaries to balance PVE, yet thy add a "Day break" modifier to strikes where you can spam supers all strikes

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          • Edited by Eat My Acid: 3/27/2017 4:23:37 PM
            I just wish that instead of just having an element they had an extra perk. Like the corruption spreads on outbreak prime

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          • The elemenal primaries being exotic is whats keeping it Balanceed. If you could have weapons like year one than it would be broken for burns and having another strong exotic on would be op.

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          • Because there exotic why? they were perfectly fine legendary

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          • I'm just trying to figure where the hell I'm going to put them

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          • What exactly is this difference anyway I mean what you'll take an enemy's shield down a second faster? I never understood why people cried over elemental primaries going away and now they're bitching when they get em back.

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          • My response to their complaints is: Why are elemental primaries so necessary? They are nice to have, but it is better for them to be exotic. This setup is optimal.

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          • So the weekly raid challenge, Can you run it on each guardian or just one?

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            • Pretty hard to equip Voc and ice breaker or Gjallarhorn or sleeper Fatebringer and p & t or thunderlord Word of crota and truth Etc etc etc Have fun and may RNG be forever in your favor.

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            • Because they don't get laid ever. Real talk.

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            • Edited by TeddyBundy: 3/24/2017 9:14:23 PM
              I'm a day1er and I think making the elemental primaries exotic it the perfect move. They have to be situational weapons, not op-for-anything because legendary. Yes, they should take up the exotic slot because people wouldn't use anything else ever again in PvE if they're legendary. Oh and btw, if you think using a special or heavy is more effective than an elemental primary in an elemental activity, you're as dense as my farts.

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            • Wait people complain? I think that Idea is both cool and balanced and better than what the community has recommended them.

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              • I am not complaining. I am very happy to see elemental primaries returning. I am happy to see raids returning, with relevance. And I am really stoked for that Crota's End armor, too. Bungie may have laid a serious egg with the Crucible changes, but I think these PvE changes are gonna knock it out of the park.

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                • I just wanna know why trials doesn't get elemental primaries again....

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                  • They should've taken the elements off the guns and had elemental consumables that gave whatever element they were into whatever legendary primary you want but you can't change the element

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                  • I just hope they have some kind of exotic perk. Zhallo Supercell isn't exotic just because it's arc, it also charges your super faster and reloads itself on double kills. Also, the only time an elemental primary would really help would be in strikes, nightfalls, and CoE with a specific burn. It wouldn't really make a difference in raids or pvp.

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                  • The reason why they are exotic is because people only used half of them because of the element and bungie didnt like that idea so they made it exotic so you will need to give up something for a element

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                  • They should have never gone away in the first place. It was fine through year 1 and the first expansion. There was no need to change that up.

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                  • Anybody who ever uses zhalos in an arc nightfall or heroic strike and doesnt like the adept weapons... You are stupid. It is litterally taking up the same exotic slot, so why is that a bad thing, now you can have a better elemental weapon than zhalos. Do you think anyone would be happy if no adept weapons were brought in? And would you avoid the mythoclast on solar and small arms nightfalls if it wa the only new elemental weapon? I think not

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                    • 90% of raiders are idiots. Of course they're complaining. It's March 2017 and kids still can't do Aksis phase 2 LOL

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