(There's a TL;DR near the bottom. Post isn't too long, but I made the courtesy nonetheless.) --"BUNGIE PLS NERF WEAPON/ABILITY!!!!" **Bungie nerfs that weapon/ability --"oh wait, I use that weapon/ability. WTF BUNGO!?!?! WORST GAME EVAAAAUUUGH!!!!!!!" (Year 1) In the beginning it was we, the playerbase, that sucked because we called for nerfs like we were calling JG Wentworth in their advert. (877-CASH-NOW!!!) So Bungie listened to us and adjusted the sandbox. We call nerf again, Bungie listens, call nerf, Bungie adjusts....now we're thinking that Bungie listens to us maybe too much. At this point, Bungie sucks. (Year 2) We're approaching Year 3, Bungie's delayed D2 by a year, dropped last-gen console activity, and the Live team produces and releases Rise of Iron to fill the gap. Meanwhile, knowing that the Crucible is a lifeline for player activity in Destiny between content drops, and sitting on top of 20+ patches and hotfixes, Bungie's live team is confident that they may actually be close to achieving balance in our sandbox. But we the playerbase are being shortsighted, impatient, and obnoxious over something as menial as a meta change. Most likely this bandwagon of salt grew from the disappointment of having a highly-anticipated sequel delayed by a full year. Not all of us are angry: we know that Bungie has had their priorities in the development of D2. Some of us believe that it should be like this with no more resources made for our current game, so that D2 doesn't become another No Man's Sky. Meanwhile, some of us believe that the Live team is doing more good than harm in Year 3. But we all don't have that belief... THE ACTUAL RESPONSE FROM TITLE QUESTION, IN CASE OF TL;DR: With the salty voices being louder, we slam Bungie over the recent patches, patches on top of nerfs that weren't remedied, and those were all nerfs that [i]we[/i] asked for. So right now, this playerbase sucks, again. I hope [i]we[/i] don't ruin Destiny 2.